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|Name = The Fallen King
|Name = The Fall Of The King
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|Caption = Image associated with the song
|Caption = Image associated with the song
|Alt_name = Fall of the King, Fallen King, King is Fallen; TFK, FK, FOTK
|Alt_name = Fallen King, King is Fallen
|Genre = Power metal
|Genre = Power metal
|Year = 1987-1989
|Year = 1987-1989
|Status = Unsolved; Almost full version available
|Status = Almost full version available
|OP = sled1025
|OP = sled1025
|Search_started = 2009
|Search_started = 2009
}}
|Media=TheFallenKing.mp3}}
'''The Fallen King''' or '''Fall of the King''' is an unknown song taped off Dallas Texas radio station, '''Z-Rock''', in the mid-to-late 80s by '''Sled1025''' on the HMR Forums and '''Armador Thrash''' on twitter.  
'''The Fall Of The King ('''also known as '''"The Fallen King'''" or '''"The King Has Fallen"''') is an unknown song taped off Dallas Texas radio station, '''Z-Rock''', in the mid-to-late 80s by '''Sled1025''' on the Encyclopaedia Metallum forums and '''Armador Thrash''' on Twitter.  


== Origins ==
== Origins ==
On September 3, 2009, user Sled1025 of the HMR forums, a hub for conversations about metal bands, posted a query about the song taped from the Dallas based rock and metal station, Z-Rock. Sled1025 said that all the songs on the tape were released in 1988 or earlier. They transcribed the lyrics and provided an MP3 file of the track. The search went quiet after this.
On September 3, 2009, user Sled1025 of the Encyclopaedia Metallum forums, a hub for discussions about metal bands, posted in a thread dedicated to identifying songs to ask users to identify a song taped from Dallas-based rock and metal station Z-Rock. Sled1025 claimed that all of the songs on the tape were released in 1988 or earlier. They transcribed the lyrics and provided an MP3 version of the track.<ref>https://forum.metal-archives.com/viewtopic.php?p=1342956#p1342956</ref>


== Revived Search ==
== Revived Search ==
On December 3rd 2020, Armador Thrash tweeted asking for help with finding an unknown metal song recorded from Z-Rock in 1987. They tagged the user Metalattackers in hopes that they would spread it and other enthusiasts would remember the song. A day later, discussion about the song moved to back to the HMR Forums, where it was suggested that the lyrics could be searched on the Metal Archives. When this proved fruitless, the song was uploaded to YouTube. User Poserkiller suggested the song could be "Fall of the King" by Redd Barron, giving the song its placeholder name. On the 15th of December, the Youtube upload was shared to the Cult Metal Classics Facebook page.
On December 3rd, 2020, Twitter user Armador Thrash asked for help in finding an unknown metal song recorded from Z-Rock in 1987.<ref>https://x.com/ArmadorThrash99/status/1336103548594098183</ref> A day later, the discussion about the song continued on the Heavy Metal Rarities Forums, where it was suggested that the lyrics could be found in the Metal Archives. When this proved unsuccessful, the song was uploaded to YouTube.<ref>https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084#gsc.tab=0</ref> User Poserkiller suggested that the song be called "Fall of the King" by Redd Barron, giving the song its placeholder name.<ref>https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084&sid=3d6e4d781d251ae6c4eda10968dd4f79#p211133</ref>


Around 2021, the song was submitted to Power Metal Station SIRIUSXM and it was speculated the DJ that played the song on Z-Rock was Pat Dawsey. A post was made about the song on r/lostwave which created a lot of community speculation.
In late 2020, Armador Thrash submitted the song to Ian Christe's ROOTS metal history show on SiriusXM Liquid Metal, seeking help in identifying the band.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opaL6a-OMKw</ref> A post was made about the song on r/lostwave which furthered interest in the song.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/kcsui4/unknown_80s_power_metal_band/</ref>


== Debunked or Partial Leads ==
== Leads ==
Redd Barron was one of the first leads to be raised, as they had a song titled "Fall of the King" which matched key lyrics in the song, however, fans of the band said this was purely a coincidence and Redd Barron uploaded a version of their song in 2020 which proved that the two songs were different.


Haven was a band discussed in the 2020 HMR Forums posts that was also quickly debunked. Another group, Z-Rose was brought up as a possible lead, however by 2021, this had been debunked by reaching out to members of the band.
=== Possible ===


Fall of the King is a hard lostwave to research - unconfirmed information about many leads has been raised without follow up and a lot of bands cannot be contacted or haven't been contacted, so most threads are left dangling. For example, the band Blackmayne was raised as a possibility but could not be contacted on Facebook, leading to the theory only being debunked by circumstantial evidence rather than rebuttal.
* '''Zion/Draggone''':  A Californian band, which is being investigated because a song called "Glory to the King" from 1987 is attributed to them.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1csvas8/another_possible_but_unlikely_lead/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1b3jz0w/theory_for_lost_song_fall_of_the_king_aka_the/</ref>


Currently, a Californian band called Draggone (formally named Zion) is being investigated because a song called "Glory to the King" from 1987 is attributed to them.
=== Debunked ===


==Outside Links:==
* '''Redd Barron''': Was one of the first leads to be raised, as they had a song titled "Fall of the King" which matched lyrics in the song, however, fans of the band said this was purely a coincidence and Redd Barron uploaded a version of their song in 2020 which proved that the two songs were different.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEP7SCX5JXs</ref>


* [https://twitter.com/ArmadorThrash99/status/1334615162830118916 Original Tweet]
* '''Haven:''' A band discussed in the 2020 HMR Forums posts that was also quickly debunked.<ref>https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084#p212081</ref>
* '''Baron Steele'''<ref>https://files.catbox.moe/hwiwg6.PNG</ref>
* '''Bernard E. Cavazos'''<ref>https://files.catbox.moe/dnvmz7.PNG</ref>
* '''Kinetic Dissent'''<ref>https://files.catbox.moe/4liuu4.jpg</ref>
* '''Conquest'''<ref>https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084&start=60#p252062</ref>
* '''Z'Rose'''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1cih0uk/finding_zrose_to_rule_them_out_once_and_for_all/</ref>
* '''Talon'''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1d3krdy/all_the_possible_leads_so_far/</ref>
* '''Blackmayne'''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1cgw96k/comment/l2svejm/</ref>
* '''Sentinel'''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1d3krdy/all_the_possible_leads_so_far/</ref>
* '''Pathfinder''': A Canadian band who only released a demo in 1985,<ref>https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Pathfinder/Demo_1985/865343</ref> confirmed to have not made the song.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1e2z7mz/pathfinder_didnt_make_the_song_the_singer_is_not/</ref>
* '''Christopher Janata''': A 1983 song titled "Fallen King" found in a Cocatalog entry,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18fucxn/contacting_christopher_c_janata_for_the/</ref> confirmed to have not made the song.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1eb8fs1/christopher_c_janata_is_debunked</ref>
* '''Pat Dawsey''': Possible Z-Rock DJ who originally played the song on the radio,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/kcsui4/comment/gfuf4c7/</ref> does not remember the song.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1era3oe/patrick_dawsey_doesnt_remember_our_song/</ref>


* [https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084#gsc.tab=0 The Forum Posts]
== Lyrics ==
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible" role="presentation"
|'''Presumed Lyrics'''
|-
|'''(Verse 1)'''
The sky is filled with ash and smoke


* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/kcsui4/unknown_80s_power_metal_band/ The r/lostwave Post]
The towers burn; the walls, they crumble
 
The bodies lie about the fields
 
No one is left to win the battle
 
'''(Pre-Chorus)'''
 
The people can’t believe their eyes
 
The king has fallen, see him die
 
A time of mystery, a time of death
 
The evil one’s promise has been kept
 
'''(Chorus)'''
 
The fall, the fall of the king
 
The fall, the fall of the king
 
'''(Verse 2)'''
 
The night sky is filled with fire
 
See the king on his royal pyre
 
Fools, to think that he would win
 
Against such evil, against such sin
 
'''(Pre-Chorus)'''
 
The people can’t believe their eyes
 
The king has fallen, see him die
 
A time of mystery, a time of death
 
The evil one’s promise has been kept
 
'''(Chorus)'''
 
The fall, the fall of the king
 
The fall, the fall of the king
 
'''(Guitar Solo)'''
 
'''(Verse 3)'''
 
The king’s time has come to pass
 
The wicked one has come at last
 
A time of fear, a time of pain
 
Cannot escape the evil one’s reign
 
'''(Pre-Chorus)'''
 
The people can’t believe their eyes
 
The king has fallen, see him die
 
A time of mystery, a time of death
 
The evil one’s promise has been kept
 
'''(Chorus)'''
 
The fall, the fall of the king
 
The fall, the fall of the king
 
The fall, the fall of the king
 
The fall, the fall of the king
|}
 
==Resources==


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The Fall Of The King

Image associated with the song
Alternative name(s) Fallen King, King is Fallen
Genre Power metal
Year 1987-1989
Status Almost full version available
Original poster sled1025
Search started 2009
File:TheFallenKing.mp3

The Fall Of The King (also known as "The Fallen King" or "The King Has Fallen") is an unknown song taped off Dallas Texas radio station, Z-Rock, in the mid-to-late 80s by Sled1025 on the Encyclopaedia Metallum forums and Armador Thrash on Twitter.

Origins

On September 3, 2009, user Sled1025 of the Encyclopaedia Metallum forums, a hub for discussions about metal bands, posted in a thread dedicated to identifying songs to ask users to identify a song taped from Dallas-based rock and metal station Z-Rock. Sled1025 claimed that all of the songs on the tape were released in 1988 or earlier. They transcribed the lyrics and provided an MP3 version of the track.[1]

Revived Search

On December 3rd, 2020, Twitter user Armador Thrash asked for help in finding an unknown metal song recorded from Z-Rock in 1987.[2] A day later, the discussion about the song continued on the Heavy Metal Rarities Forums, where it was suggested that the lyrics could be found in the Metal Archives. When this proved unsuccessful, the song was uploaded to YouTube.[3] User Poserkiller suggested that the song be called "Fall of the King" by Redd Barron, giving the song its placeholder name.[4]

In late 2020, Armador Thrash submitted the song to Ian Christe's ROOTS metal history show on SiriusXM Liquid Metal, seeking help in identifying the band.[5] A post was made about the song on r/lostwave which furthered interest in the song.[6]

Leads

Possible

  • Zion/Draggone: A Californian band, which is being investigated because a song called "Glory to the King" from 1987 is attributed to them.[7][8]

Debunked

  • Redd Barron: Was one of the first leads to be raised, as they had a song titled "Fall of the King" which matched lyrics in the song, however, fans of the band said this was purely a coincidence and Redd Barron uploaded a version of their song in 2020 which proved that the two songs were different.[9]
  • Haven: A band discussed in the 2020 HMR Forums posts that was also quickly debunked.[10]
  • Baron Steele[11]
  • Bernard E. Cavazos[12]
  • Kinetic Dissent[13]
  • Conquest[14]
  • Z'Rose[15]
  • Talon[16]
  • Blackmayne[17]
  • Sentinel[18]
  • Pathfinder: A Canadian band who only released a demo in 1985,[19] confirmed to have not made the song.[20]
  • Christopher Janata: A 1983 song titled "Fallen King" found in a Cocatalog entry,[21] confirmed to have not made the song.[22]
  • Pat Dawsey: Possible Z-Rock DJ who originally played the song on the radio,[23] does not remember the song.[24]

Lyrics

Resources

  1. https://forum.metal-archives.com/viewtopic.php?p=1342956#p1342956
  2. https://x.com/ArmadorThrash99/status/1336103548594098183
  3. https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084#gsc.tab=0
  4. https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084&sid=3d6e4d781d251ae6c4eda10968dd4f79#p211133
  5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opaL6a-OMKw
  6. https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/kcsui4/unknown_80s_power_metal_band/
  7. https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1csvas8/another_possible_but_unlikely_lead/
  8. https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1b3jz0w/theory_for_lost_song_fall_of_the_king_aka_the/
  9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEP7SCX5JXs
  10. https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084#p212081
  11. https://files.catbox.moe/hwiwg6.PNG
  12. https://files.catbox.moe/dnvmz7.PNG
  13. https://files.catbox.moe/4liuu4.jpg
  14. https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084&start=60#p252062
  15. https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1cih0uk/finding_zrose_to_rule_them_out_once_and_for_all/
  16. https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1d3krdy/all_the_possible_leads_so_far/
  17. https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1cgw96k/comment/l2svejm/
  18. https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1d3krdy/all_the_possible_leads_so_far/
  19. https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Pathfinder/Demo_1985/865343
  20. https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1e2z7mz/pathfinder_didnt_make_the_song_the_singer_is_not/
  21. https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18fucxn/contacting_christopher_c_janata_for_the/
  22. https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1eb8fs1/christopher_c_janata_is_debunked
  23. https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/kcsui4/comment/gfuf4c7/
  24. https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1era3oe/patrick_dawsey_doesnt_remember_our_song/