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|ShowBox = Yes
|ShowBox = Yes
|Name = Dreams 4ever
|Name = Dreams 4ever
|Image = CancionDeAlicia.jpeg
|Image = La Cancion de Alicia.png
|Caption = The background of the original LCDA post was an Alice In Wonderland edit.
|Caption =  
|Alt_name =  La Cancion De Alicia, Under The Stars, LCDA, UTS
|Alt_name =  La Canción de Alicia, Under The Stars  
|Artist = Bad Influence
|Artist = Bad Influence
|Genre = Psychedelic Rock
|Year = 2018
|Year = 2018
|Status = Solved; Live performance available
|Status = Solved
|OP = Jitomate Triste and Daniel Gutierrez
|OP = Jitomate Triste  
|Search_started =  July 3rd, 2021
|Search_started =  July 3rd, 2021
|Search_ended = May 16th, 2024
|Search_ended = May 16th, 2024
|Media = LCDA.mp3
|Media = Dreams4Ever.mp3
}}
}}
'''Dreams 4ever''', previously known as '''La Cancion De Alicia''', '''Under The Stars''' or abbreviated as '''LCDA''', is a recently solved lostwave.
'''Dreams 4ever''' (formerly known as "'''La Canción de Alicia'''" and "'''Under The Stars'''") is a solved psychedelic rock song that was popularized on the Facebook group Lost Media Perdidos Posting. On May 16th, 2024, the song was identified as Dreams 4ever by the Peruvian band Bad Influence.  


== History ==
==Background (July 2021)==
LCDA was uploaded onto various Facebook groups before July 3, 2021. The lostwave snippet was uploaded along with an edit of Alice In Wonderland.
Sometime before July 3rd, 2021, a Facebook user named Jitomate Triste posted on Facebook, either in his private feed or in a private group, asking for the song's name. A video edit of the song, featuring footage from Disney's animated film Alice in Wonderland, was attached to the post. Jitomate Tristes' post received little attention and was dismissed.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20231123172455/https://www.facebook.com/1261341603/videos/3148428885376852/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/LaCancionDeAlicia/comments/1be0xcd/lcda_lcda_related_timeline/</ref> 


Jitomate Triste was the original poster, but they were banned shortly after posting for unknown reasons. This drastically shot down the chances of finding the song, as Jitomate was no longer there to answer any questions.  
On July 3rd, 2021, Facebook user Daniel Gutierrez uploaded a screen recording of Jitomate Triste's post on the Facebook group "Lost Media Perdidos Posting",<ref>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cj5ixC9WV5o66ciSr03SJWE8XWnfYeWQcImwOum6OUo/edit#heading=h.m9cluo6duc9h</ref> which would be reuploaded on YouTube by user Javk Ani- -ZnKyak on July 4th, 2021.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8OmEBMn-ys</ref> 


On July 3, 2021, Daniel Gutierrez uploaded a screen recording of Jitomate Triste’s post on Facebook group “Lost Media Perdidos Posting”.
==Previous Leads (September 2021 - May 2024)==
The search gained traction in September 2021 on the Spanish internet, when it was initially uploaded on r/lostmedia and r/lostwave by users Longjumping-Table819 and GameMonkeyDev respectively.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/lostmedia/comments/pisug4/hi_everybody_im_from_lost_media_perdidos_posting/</ref><ref name=":0">https://www.reddit.com/r/lostmedia/comments/pisug4/hi_everybody_im_from_lost_media_perdidos_posting/</ref> As the community grew, it became widely assumed that the singer was not a native English speaker and most likely had a Spanish accent.<ref name=":0" />


The video would be reuploaded onto YouTube days later.
In mid-October 2021, a YouTube user named 'Yo yoyo' suggested that Chilean alt-rock band Gin & Tonic could have created the song.<ref>https://www.discogs.com/release/30220364-Gin-Tonic-Free-As-The-Sun</ref> The band in question was formed in 2001, and split sometime in 2005. In 2003, the group released their first and only album, Free as the Sun, with English vocals and a similar musical style.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20041030142422/http://www.bandasdechile.cl/banda_detalle.php?banda_id=1364</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeCDTKGjbLo</ref>


On May 16, 2024 an announcement on Reddit was posted saying that LCDA had been found when the OP of the Reddit post’s friend had said they were friends with one of the band members that is part of the band Bad Influence (now known as “Best Promotions”). A video was found on Facebook showing a live performance of the song by the band. Currently, the band has been contacted about the song, and we are awaiting a response.
In late October, some people contacted Gin & Tonic's vocalist, Ricardo Méndez, who confirmed that the song was not created by him or his band. Later, Méndez would record a cover of "La Cancion De Alicia" on his channel, @richardvox, titled "Under The Stars".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6R6-uPMi8E</ref>


== The Search and Previous Leads ==
==Discovery==
The search began gaining traction in September of that year. As a community began forming, it became widely thought that the singer is not a native English speaker and most likely has a Spanish accent. This opens the possibility of the song being from a Spanish-speaking country, like Argentina, Chile, Spain and many more.
On May 16th, 2024, Reddit user JMike_324 shared his discovery of the song, which he found after showing it to a friend at a university, who recognized it as being by the Peruvian band "Bad Influence".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cttng2/we_found_la_cancion_de_alicia/</ref> They linked to a post from November 29th, 2018, in which the band performed the song live; the song's name was revealed to be "Dreams 4ever," and was recorded in November 2018.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/100063153434308/videos/2049906881755656/?mibextid=oFDknk&rdid=YyEfKwHGV0eJq1hE</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhJRc3W3dk4</ref>


On October 21, 2021, YouTube user @yoyoyo8230 posted the first of a series of 3 videos, titled ""La Canción de Alicia" (Lost Media) Misterio Revelado", each video being only a still drawing of Alice in Wonderland. The audio, although seemingly unrelated to the search, was made up of songs by a long-gone group nicknamed "Gin Toc", short for "Gin and Tonic". In the comment section of the videos, @yoyoyo8230 proceeded to give more details on how he came in possession of these tracks :<blockquote>I have worked in a recording studio years ago and I have kept a LOT of material from Chilean bands who recorded in the studio : demos, rehearsals, studio versions.</blockquote>Ricardo Mendes of Gin & Tonic initially became a big lead, and one of the members of the lostwave community would reach out to him, asking if he recognized LCDA. Ricardo responded that he had never heard it before, but that he would love to make a cover of it for the community. Later down the line, Richard Mendez would release his cover of “La Cancion De Alicia” on his channel, @richardvox, naming the song “Under The Stars”.
The band's guitarist created the Alice in Wonderland edit, which was uploaded to the Indie 505 Facebook page, but deleted an hour later by a moderator. This is where Jitomate Triste, presumably a member of the page, downloaded and re-uploaded the video.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cu276e/message_from_one_of_the_members_of_bad_influence/</ref>  


In his short documentary on the lostwave, @YbxrdsGaming on YouTube said that “apart from a slight change in accent, the song sounded almost identical to the original snippet”.  
The following day, on May 17th, 2024, the studio version was found and posted by JMike_324 on his YouTube channel.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cu6z7c/la_canci%C3%B3n_de_alicia_hq_demo_version/</ref>


The search began to slow down. @YbxrdsGaming says that “Richard’s cover of the song was so good that some people in the community just gave up on the search and settled with Richard’s Under The Stars”.
== Lyrics ==
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible" role="presentation"
|'''Official Lyrics'''
|-
|'''(Verse 1)'''
Last night I could find, something warm


The part of the community that still wanted to find the original song instead began looking into the edit the song was set to. Most of the GIFs were identified to be taken from tumblr in the early-to-mid 2010s, as trippy Alice In Wonderland edits were widely circulated there due to the site's culture of aesthetic blogs.
In the middle of the night it calls me


== Discovery ==
Between the life and death, you decide
On the 17th of May, reddit user JMike shared the discovery of the song. They had showed the snippet to a friend at university who said not only had she heard the song, she had been a friend of the band who created it. The band's name was "Bad Influence", who were a Peruvian band who still had a Facebook page (although the page's name had been changed to "Best Promotions"). JMike found a video on their page of LCDA, entitled "Dreams 4ever".


A million miles away, it searches me


Later the band's guitarist spoke to the community on the Fond My Mind Discord, saying they had created the trippy edit and posted it in a Facebook group, but sometime later it had been deleted by admins. This is likely where Jitomate Triste found the video and downloaded it.
'''(Refrain)'''


Another version of the song was found on Facebook recorded from a practice session.
When I see your face in the darkness night


Later that day, the band responded to the community:
I just wanna be the only who change your mind


"In 2019, I decided to make an edit of Alicia using an old demo we recorded and some gifs I found on Google, using Inshot on a 2gb ram phone lol. I couldn't convince the band to post the video on our page, so I uploaded it to the Indie 505 group, which was deleted a few hours later.
But my life is real, you're a simple dream


Luckily, a user named Jitomate Triste was able to capture the video and, without knowing it, went viral, making all of this possible. Last night, an old friend named Leslie told me that her friend showed her this song and she quickly recognized it and contacted me. I was totally in shock to find out that this song, along with the edit, was a mystery and that it had almost 500k views. I couldn't believe it! We are so grateful to all of you."
That remember me the love is a mystery


- Bad Influence, responding to the popularity of their song in a YouTube comment. Translated from Spanish.
Oh please, let me be this boy, who you never forgot


Subsequently, a high quality demo of the song was uploaded by JMike.
I won't close my eyes, but somebody wake me up


== Lyrics (of the Snippet) ==
'''(Verse 1)'''


Last night I could find, something warm


When I see your face in the darkest night,
In the middle of the night it calls me


I just wanna be only one that change your mind
Between the life and death, you decide


But my life is real, not a simple dream,
A million miles away, it searches me


Then remembering that love is a misery,
'''(Refrain)'''


Oh please,
When I see your face in the darkness night


Let me be this boy
I just wanna be the only who change your mind


Who you’ll never forgot
But my life is real, you're a simple dream


I won’t close my eyes,
That remember me the love is a mystery


But somebody wake me up
Oh please, let me be this boy, who you never forgot


oh,
I won't close my eyes, but somebody will


oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, ohhh
When I see your face in the darkness night


oh, oh ,oh, oh,
I just wanna be the only who change your mind


Yeahhhhh!
But my life is real, you're a simple dream


Look at me in the eyes,
That remember me the love is a misery
 
Oh please, let me be this boy, who you never forgot
 
I won't close my eyes, but somebody wake me up
 
'''(Chorus)'''
 
Look at me in the eyes
 
Are you gonna stay by my side?
 
Spending nights together, together
 
Together under the stars
 
‘Cause nobody knows, you could be the first and the last
 
I'm sure it last forever, forever
 
I would make you only mine
 
Look at me in the eyes


Are you gonna stay by my side?
Are you gonna stay by my side?


And spend the night together,
Spending nights together, together


together,
Together under the stars


together under the stars.
'''''(Guitar Solo)'''''


Nobody knows,
Look at me in the eyes


You could be the first and the last,
Are you gonna stay by my side? (''Oh, ooh-ooh'')


Should we last forever?
Spending nights together, together (''Oh, oh'')


forever?
Together under the stars (''Oh, oh, ooh-oh'')


I’ll make you only mine.
‘Cause nobody knows, you could be the first and the last (''Ooh-oh, ooh-oh'')


Look at me in the eyes,
I'm sure it last forever, forever (''Ooh-oh'')


Are you gonna stay by my side?
I would make you only mine
 
Look at me in the eyes
 
Are you gonna stay by my side? (''Ooh-oh, ooh-oh'')
 
Someday, someday (Zun dada, Zun dada)
 
'Cause nobody knows, you could be the first and the last (''Ooh-oh,ooh-oh, ooh-ooh'')
 
I'm sure it last forever, forever (''Ooh-ooh'')
 
I would make you only mine
 
'''(Outro)'''
 
Baby I’m still dreaming, for what it's worth I can’t
 
Baby believe me, why we just came back to the beginning?
 
Baby believe me, for what it's worth I can’t


And spend the night together,
Baby I’m still dreaming, why we just came back to the beginning?


together,
Yeah!
|}


together under the stars.
== Personnel ==
[https://www.instagram.com/s4nta_nax10/ Diego Salcedo] – vocals


== External links ==
[https://www.instagram.com/saldanatje/ Jesús Saldaña] – lead guitar


* [https://www.facebook.com/watch/ Facebook Video]
[https://www.instagram.com/bluntttt_t/ Flavio Román] – rhythm guitar, backing vocals
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvbFDakLgbY High Quality Demo]
* [https://youtu.be/5FELlg94BE8 Live performance of the song]


* [https://www.facebook.com/p/Best-promotions-100063153434308/ Bad Influence's Facebook]
[https://www.instagram.com/ml_.carlos/ Carlos Mendoza] – drums
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhJRc3W3dk4 Session the edit may have come from]
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cttng2/we_found_la_cancion_de_alicia/ JMike's Post]
* [https://youtu.be/K8YxpbTKHbo YbxrdsGaming’s short video on the song]


* [https://youtu.be/rLFVfVrBZ_Q? An early reupload of the song that gained lots of attention]
==References==
*[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cj5ixC9WV5o66ciSr03SJWE8XWnfYeWQcImwOum6OUo/edit Information Document]
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Revision as of 12:30, 22 August 2024

ⓘ This lostwave is classified as solved.

Dreams 4ever
Alternative name(s) La Canción de Alicia, Under The Stars
Artist(s) Bad Influence
Genre Psychedelic Rock
Year 2018
Status Solved
Original poster Jitomate Triste
Search duration July 3rd, 2021 - May 16th, 2024
File:Dreams4Ever.mp3

Dreams 4ever (formerly known as "La Canción de Alicia" and "Under The Stars") is a solved psychedelic rock song that was popularized on the Facebook group Lost Media Perdidos Posting. On May 16th, 2024, the song was identified as Dreams 4ever by the Peruvian band Bad Influence.

Background (July 2021)

Sometime before July 3rd, 2021, a Facebook user named Jitomate Triste posted on Facebook, either in his private feed or in a private group, asking for the song's name. A video edit of the song, featuring footage from Disney's animated film Alice in Wonderland, was attached to the post. Jitomate Tristes' post received little attention and was dismissed.[1][2]

On July 3rd, 2021, Facebook user Daniel Gutierrez uploaded a screen recording of Jitomate Triste's post on the Facebook group "Lost Media Perdidos Posting",[3] which would be reuploaded on YouTube by user Javk Ani- -ZnKyak on July 4th, 2021.[4]

Previous Leads (September 2021 - May 2024)

The search gained traction in September 2021 on the Spanish internet, when it was initially uploaded on r/lostmedia and r/lostwave by users Longjumping-Table819 and GameMonkeyDev respectively.[5][6] As the community grew, it became widely assumed that the singer was not a native English speaker and most likely had a Spanish accent.[6]

In mid-October 2021, a YouTube user named 'Yo yoyo' suggested that Chilean alt-rock band Gin & Tonic could have created the song.[7] The band in question was formed in 2001, and split sometime in 2005. In 2003, the group released their first and only album, Free as the Sun, with English vocals and a similar musical style.[8][9]

In late October, some people contacted Gin & Tonic's vocalist, Ricardo Méndez, who confirmed that the song was not created by him or his band. Later, Méndez would record a cover of "La Cancion De Alicia" on his channel, @richardvox, titled "Under The Stars".[10]

Discovery

On May 16th, 2024, Reddit user JMike_324 shared his discovery of the song, which he found after showing it to a friend at a university, who recognized it as being by the Peruvian band "Bad Influence".[11] They linked to a post from November 29th, 2018, in which the band performed the song live; the song's name was revealed to be "Dreams 4ever," and was recorded in November 2018.[12][13]

The band's guitarist created the Alice in Wonderland edit, which was uploaded to the Indie 505 Facebook page, but deleted an hour later by a moderator. This is where Jitomate Triste, presumably a member of the page, downloaded and re-uploaded the video.[14]

The following day, on May 17th, 2024, the studio version was found and posted by JMike_324 on his YouTube channel.[15]

Lyrics

Personnel

Diego Salcedo – vocals

Jesús Saldaña – lead guitar

Flavio Román – rhythm guitar, backing vocals

Carlos Mendoza – drums

References

  1. ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20231123172455/https://www.facebook.com/1261341603/videos/3148428885376852/
  2. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/LaCancionDeAlicia/comments/1be0xcd/lcda_lcda_related_timeline/
  3. ↑ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cj5ixC9WV5o66ciSr03SJWE8XWnfYeWQcImwOum6OUo/edit#heading=h.m9cluo6duc9h
  4. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8OmEBMn-ys
  5. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/lostmedia/comments/pisug4/hi_everybody_im_from_lost_media_perdidos_posting/
  6. ↑ 6.0 6.1 https://www.reddit.com/r/lostmedia/comments/pisug4/hi_everybody_im_from_lost_media_perdidos_posting/
  7. ↑ https://www.discogs.com/release/30220364-Gin-Tonic-Free-As-The-Sun
  8. ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20041030142422/http://www.bandasdechile.cl/banda_detalle.php?banda_id=1364
  9. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeCDTKGjbLo
  10. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6R6-uPMi8E
  11. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cttng2/we_found_la_cancion_de_alicia/
  12. ↑ https://www.facebook.com/100063153434308/videos/2049906881755656/?mibextid=oFDknk&rdid=YyEfKwHGV0eJq1hE
  13. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhJRc3W3dk4
  14. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cu276e/message_from_one_of_the_members_of_bad_influence/
  15. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cu6z7c/la_canci%C3%B3n_de_alicia_hq_demo_version/
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