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	ⓘ This lostwave is classified as solved.
	Treadmill Of Time
Language	English
Artist(s)	Memorybank
Genre	Post-Punk/Synth-Pop
Length	4.39 (record)
Year	1987
Status	Solved
Original poster	CharlieMillesManson
Search duration	2002 - 2024
	File:Treadmilloftime.mp3

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Treadmill of Time (also known as "Slow Down" and "Not Sure Of It All Anymore") is a solved lostwave misattributed to Depeche Mode under the name "Treadmill of Fire", with the false claim that it was a 1981 demo by keyboardist Alan Wilder.

In September 2024, after three years of the claim requiring verification, the song was identified as "Treadmill of Time" by Memorybank, after the band's founder Tim Addy posted a cassette inlay containing the album's tracklist.

Background[edit | edit source]

The song was first mentioned on the internet on April 25th, 2002 on depechemode-sk, a Slovakian Depeche Mode fan site.^[1] It was labelled as a fake song because it appeared on a 2002 bootleg Depeche Mode album called "On Solo Ways...".^[2]

On September 8th, 2010, YouTube user CharlieMillesManson reuploaded the song to YouTube under the mislabeled title "Depeche Mode - Treadmill Of Fire (Demo Version)", along with numerous other rare Depeche Mode songs.^[3]

On October 15th, 2019, the song was posted to spiritofradio.ca, claiming that it, along with two other songs from the bootleg album, Chart Rundown and Here to Have Fun, were originally sourced from a radio broadcast from the mid-1980s or early 1990s, with the DJ or host claiming Alan Wilder as the creator.^[4] The broadcast also included "Disco Hell," an actual early track from Wilder's band, "Daphne and the Tenderspots".^[5] The station and broadcaster remain unknown.

In September 2020, the song first gained attention in the lostwave community when Discord user Bluey G. Wulfsy posted the song "Chart Rundown" in the server for The Most Mysterious Song On The Internet, after discovering it while listening to unsolved tracks on Spirit of Radio.^[6]

Discovery[edit | edit source]

In March 2021, a YouTube user named Nik Lawrence commented on a response to the original YouTube upload of the song, confirming that the band is not Depeche Mode and that he knows the original creators of the song.^[7]

In August 2021, Lawrence was contacted by Discord user humanracer, who confirmed that a band he was in, "Memorial," which was founded in 1988 by T Addy and J Lewis, were the creators of the lost song. Lawrence advised humanracer to get in touch with Tim Addy, the song's producer, for a higher quality copy of the song.^[6]

In February 2023, Tim Addy finally responded to humanracer's messages, confirming that the band was actually called Memorybank, and that they recorded an album in the summer of 1988 called "Key To The Door", which contained the song. Jonathan Lewis was confirmed to be the lead songwriter and vocalist, with Tim handling production and drum programming.^[6]

On September 20th, 2024, Tim Addy would provide Reddit user gksvevo with a photo of the cassette inlay for Memorybank's 1987 album "Key To The Door", which included the lost songs Treadmill Of Time, Here To Have Fun and Chart Rundown as well as unheard songs such as The High Ridge, The Golden Age, Suburban Empires, and Photographique (which was previously eluded to by Lawrence^[6] and Addy,^[8] who claimed that the band recorded a French cover of Depeche Mode's song Photographic).^[9]

Despite not receiving a master copy of the song from Tim Addy, who is no longer in possession of it,^[10] the lostwave community declared the song solved on September 27th, 2024, citing overwhelming evidence.^[11]

Leads[edit | edit source]

Debunked[edit | edit source]

Deca Dance: Australian band investigated due to similar style and vocals^[12]
Minimal Compact: Israeli band investigated after another fake Alan Wilder song, "Postulate," which appeared on the On Solo Ways... outfake album,^[13] was revealed to be an alternate version of the Minimal Compact song Clock Bird.^[14]
The Hitmen: British band featuring Alan Wilder on keyboards; some believe the lead singer Ben Watkins' voice is similar to the lost song.^[15]
Voyagers: Turkish band investigated due to similar style and vocals, confirmed to have not made the song.^[16]^[17]

Lyrics[edit | edit source]

[Chorus]

I want to get up now

I'm trying to learn how

Why can't it just slow down

Slow right down

Not sure of it all anymore

[Verse 1]

Tied to the treadmill of time

Climbing up an endless stair

Slide with no reason or rhyme

Headlong into who knows where

There was once a time

When everything was fine

And water towers seemed living entities

I believed in all kinds of absurdities

How strange

The thoughts of innocence

Time has changed

I've lost that hidden sense

[Chorus]

I want to get up now

I'm trying to learn how

Why can't it just slow down

Slow right down

Not sure of it all anymore

[Verse 2]

Hands on the clock face turn 'round

Getting older, moving fast

Sands in the hourglass fall down

Letting go of times passed

There was once a dream

I had in which it seemed

A rosebush grew in the house where I used to live

I suppose I know those are days I can't relive

How true

The thoughts I've pushed aside

I wish I knew

They could simply be denied

[Bridge]

I've been waiting for

The key to the door

And freedom galore

I seem to want more

I've been waiting for

The key to the door

And freedom galore

I seem to want more

[Chorus]

I want to get up now

I'm trying to learn how

Why can't it just slow down

I want to get up now

I'm trying to learn how

Why can't it just slow down

I want to get up now

I'm trying to learn how

Why can't it just slow down

Slow right down

Not sure of it all anymore

References[edit | edit source]

Links[edit | edit source]

[1] ttps://www-depechemode-sk.translate.goog/magazin/clanok/zaujimavosti-o-depeche-mode-1-cast?_x_tr_sl=sk&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

[2] ttps://forum.klix.ba/muzika-f19/depeche-mode-t59965.html

[3] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrOdQFm_ZRI

[4] ttps://spiritofradio.ca/SongComments.asp?SongID=3190

[5] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1FBLAfawIQ

[:0-6] 6.0 ^6.1 ^6.2 ^6.3 https://www.reddit.com/r/TreadmillofTimeSong/comments/1frjppy/timeline_of_search/

[7] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrOdQFm_ZRI&lc=UgxBKERsK1U3PdlAtcB4AaABAg.9CIJ4RtdJHU9Kktj_n1I6l

[8] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1flj38i/comment/lo4duhu/

[9] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1flj38i/big_memorybank_discovery/

[10] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1flj38i/comment/lo3bw2b/

[11] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1fqxqom/memorybank_songs_edge_of_a_dream_and_words/

[12] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1aypp3w/posible_lead_to_treadmille_of_time_decadance/?rdt=45597

[13] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARju6V9qyMc

[14] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXF_BzS2B8s

[15] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18lu1fk/comment/ke467d1/

[16] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cxw50z/comment/l5mywev/?share_id=CiwA0Kiv3g2nU16QwxjQf

[17] ttps://www.facebook.com/groups/23196533715/permalink/10160042603513716/?comment_id=10160044934578716

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-'''Treadmill of Time ('''also known as '''"Slow Down" and "Not Sure Of It All Anymore" )''' is a mysterious synthpop song misattributed to Depeche Mode under the name "Treadmill of Fire", with the false claim that it was a 1981 demo by keyboardist Alan Wilder.
+'''Treadmill of Time''' (also known as '''"Slow Down"''' and '''"Not Sure Of It All Anymore"''') is a solved lostwave misattributed to Depeche Mode under the name "Treadmill of Fire", with the false claim that it was a 1981 demo by keyboardist Alan Wilder.
+In September 2024, after three years of the claim requiring verification, the song was identified as "Treadmill of Time" by Memorybank, after the band's founder Tim Addy posted a cassette inlay containing the album's tracklist.
 == Background ==
-On April 25th, 2002, the song was first mentioned on the internet by a Slovakian Depeche Mode fansite, depechemode-sk.<ref>https://www-depechemode-sk.translate.goog/magazin/clanok/zaujimavosti-o-depeche-mode-1-cast?_x_tr_sl=sk&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc</ref> It was labelled a fake song because it appeared on a 2002 bootleg Depeche Mode album titled "On Solo Ways...".<ref>https://forum.klix.ba/muzika-f19/depeche-mode-t59965.html</ref>
+The song was first mentioned on the internet on April 25th, 2002 on depechemode-sk, a Slovakian Depeche Mode fan site.<ref>https://www-depechemode-sk.translate.goog/magazin/clanok/zaujimavosti-o-depeche-mode-1-cast?_x_tr_sl=sk&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc</ref> It was labelled as a fake song because it appeared on a 2002 bootleg Depeche Mode album called "On Solo Ways...".<ref>https://forum.klix.ba/muzika-f19/depeche-mode-t59965.html</ref>
+On September 8th, 2010, YouTube user CharlieMillesManson reuploaded the song to YouTube under the mislabeled title "Depeche Mode - Treadmill Of Fire (Demo Version)", along with numerous other rare Depeche Mode songs.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrOdQFm_ZRI</ref>
+On October 15th, 2019, the song was posted to spiritofradio.ca, claiming that it, along with two other songs from the bootleg album, Chart Rundown and Here to Have Fun, were originally sourced from a radio broadcast from the mid-1980s or early 1990s, with the DJ or host claiming Alan Wilder as the creator.<ref>https://spiritofradio.ca/SongComments.asp?SongID=3190</ref> The broadcast also included "Disco Hell," an actual early track from Wilder's band, "Daphne and the Tenderspots".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1FBLAfawIQ</ref> The station and broadcaster remain unknown.
+In September 2020, the song first gained attention in the lostwave community when Discord user Bluey G. Wulfsy posted the song "Chart Rundown" in the server for [[The Most Mysterious Song On The Internet]], after discovering it while listening to unsolved tracks on Spirit of Radio.<ref name=":0">https://www.reddit.com/r/TreadmillofTimeSong/comments/1frjppy/timeline_of_search/</ref>
+== Discovery ==
+In March 2021, a YouTube user named Nik Lawrence commented on a response to the original YouTube upload of the song, confirming that the band is not Depeche Mode and that he knows the original creators of the song.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrOdQFm_ZRI&lc=UgxBKERsK1U3PdlAtcB4AaABAg.9CIJ4RtdJHU9Kktj_n1I6l</ref>
-On September 8th, 2010, YouTube user CharlieMillesManson first uploaded the song to YouTube with the false title "Depeche Mode - Treadmill Of Fire (Demo Version)", along with numerous other rare Depeche Mode songs.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrOdQFm_ZRI</ref>
+In August 2021, Lawrence was contacted by Discord user humanracer, who confirmed that a band he was in, "Memorial," which was founded in 1988 by T Addy and J Lewis, were the creators of the lost song. Lawrence advised humanracer to get in touch with Tim Addy, the song's producer, for a higher quality copy of the song.<ref name=":0" />
-On October 15th, 2019, the song was posted to spiritofradio.ca, claiming that it, along with two other songs from the bootleg album, Chart Rundown and Here to Have Fun, were originally sourced from a radio broadcast in the mid-1980s and early 1990s, with the DJ or host claiming Alan Wilder as the creator.<ref>https://spiritofradio.ca/SongComments.asp?SongID=3190</ref> The broadcast also included "Disco Hell," an actual early track from Wilder's band,<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1FBLAfawIQ</ref> "Daphne and the Tenderspots." The station and broadcaster remain unknown.
+In February 2023, Tim Addy finally responded to humanracer's messages, confirming that the band was actually called Memorybank, and that they recorded an album in the summer of 1988 called "Key To The Door", which contained the song. Jonathan Lewis was confirmed to be the lead songwriter and vocalist, with Tim handling production and drum programming.<ref name=":0" />
-== Leads ==
+On September 20th, 2024, Tim Addy would provide Reddit user gksvevo with a photo of the cassette inlay for Memorybank's 1987 album "Key To The Door", which included the lost songs Treadmill Of Time, Here To Have Fun and Chart Rundown as well as unheard songs such as The High Ridge, The Golden Age, Suburban Empires, and Photographique (which was previously eluded to by Lawrence<ref name=":0" /> and Addy,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1flj38i/comment/lo4duhu/</ref> who claimed that the band recorded a French cover of Depeche Mode's song Photographic).<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1flj38i/big_memorybank_discovery/</ref>
-=== Possible ===
+Despite not receiving a master copy of the song from Tim Addy, who is no longer in possession of it,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1flj38i/comment/lo3bw2b/</ref> the lostwave community declared the song solved on September 27th, 2024, citing overwhelming evidence.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1fqxqom/memorybank_songs_edge_of_a_dream_and_words/</ref>
-* '''Memorybank''': A recent lead has raised the possibility of an unknown band known as "Memorybank" or "Memorial" being the creators of the song. This started when someone using the YouTube handle "Nik Lawrence" left a now-deleted comment claiming to know the band. He told the search team that he recognized the group as "Memorial" and that "T Addy" and "J Lewis" of Southampton were most likely the ones who recorded it in 1988.<ref name=":0">https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18lu1fk/treadmill_of_time_fire_consolidated_info/</ref> In February 2023, someone named Tim Addy was contacted and claimed to be involved, but used a different name for the band. calling it "Memorybank".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Ftreadmill-of-time-fire-consolidated-info-v0-ha4yen83q67c1.png%3Fwidth%3D1080%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D223c6fbafe6865c188054c01cd86da9df8e8c022</ref> The person who claims to be Tim Addy or Nik Lawrence has not provided any additional evidence proving that Memorybank created the song, and no proof that the band existed has been discovered.<ref name=":0" /> However, a person named Nik Lawrence from Hampshire, England, was proven to exist from a Depeche Mode fan magazine from 1989.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18lu1fk/comment/ke0rdzx/</ref><ref>https://dmlive.wiki/wiki/BONG_6</ref>
+== Leads ==
+=== Debunked ===
 * '''Deca Dance''': Australian band investigated due to similar style and vocals<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1aypp3w/posible_lead_to_treadmille_of_time_decadance/?rdt=45597</ref>
 * '''Minimal Compact''': Israeli band investigated after another fake Alan Wilder song, "Postulate," which appeared on the On Solo Ways... outfake album,<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARju6V9qyMc</ref> was revealed to be an alternate version of the Minimal Compact song Clock Bird.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXF_BzS2B8s</ref>
 * '''The Hitmen''': British band featuring Alan Wilder on keyboards; some believe the lead singer Ben Watkins' voice is similar to the lost song.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18lu1fk/comment/ke467d1/</ref>
-=== Debunked ===
 * '''Voyagers''': Turkish band investigated due to similar style and vocals, confirmed to have not made the song.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cxw50z/comment/l5mywev/?share_id=CiwA0Kiv3g2nU16QwxjQf</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/23196533715/permalink/10160042603513716/?comment_id=10160044934578716</ref>
 == Lyrics ==
 {| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" role="presentation"
-|'''[Chorus]'''I want to get up now
+|'''[Chorus]'''
+I want to get up now
 I'm trying to learn how
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 == References ==
+<references />
+== Links ==
 *[https://dmlive.wiki/wiki/Demos_%26_Studio_Outtakes/Fake_tracks#Chart_Rundown Depeche Mode wiki entry]
 *[https://www.reddit.com/r/TreadmillofTimeSong/s/wDqky6LqbW Subreddit]
-[[Category:Underidentified]]
+[[Category:Identified]]
-[[Category:New wave]]
+[[Category:Synth-pop]]
+[[Category:Post punk]]
+[[Category:English-language songs]]