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|Name = Just A Game | |Name = Just A Game | ||
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|Alt_name = Here I Stand, All Alone Again, (And) Now I Know It's Just a Game, Choose The Way To Play, Rules To Play | |||
|Artist = Change To Win (Christof Bachmeier, Regina Simon, Mario Lehner, Karli Mayer) | |||
|Caption = | |Caption = | ||
|Genre = Rock | |Genre = Rock | ||
|Length = 4:52 | |Length = 4:52 | ||
|Year = | |Year = 1988 | ||
|OP = Gabor72 | |OP = Gabor72 | ||
|Search_started = 2018 | |Search_started = 2018 | ||
|Media = | |Search_ended = 2024 | ||
|Media = JustAGameMasterTape.mp3 | |||
'''Just A Game''' is a solved rock / AOR (album-oriented rock) song that was uploaded to WatZatSong by Gabor72 on December 22nd, 2018. On July 1st 2024 it was | }} | ||
'''Just A Game''' is a solved rock / AOR (album-oriented rock) song that was uploaded to WatZatSong by Gabor72 on December 22nd, 2018. On July 1st 2024, it was identified as Just A Game by Christof Bachmeier. | |||
==Background== | ==Background== | ||
On December 22nd, 2018, WatZatSong user Gabor72 shared a snippet of a mysterious song. The song received little to no traction, with no attention for approximately five years | On December 22nd, 2018, WatZatSong user Gabor72 shared a snippet of a mysterious song. The song received little to no traction, with no attention for approximately five years,<ref>https://www.watzatsong.com/en/name-that-tune/584899.html</ref> until late 2023, when multiple YouTube reuploads of the song were published, increasing its popularity.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNMoNr9otpA</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FN99t4ef9k</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfv07P161Fs</ref> The OP was determined to be from either Italy or Hungary based on the large number of Italian song uploads and the fact that Gabor is a common Hungarian name.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cmhodc/we_need_more_help_to_find_just_a_game/</ref> | ||
On May 7th, 2024, searchers reverse image searched Gabor72's profile picture on WatZatSong and found his Facebook account, where it was revealed that he had died on March 6th, 2024.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1cmgxd1/gabor_is_dead_we_found_his_facebook_and_his_wife/</ref> | On May 7th, 2024, searchers reverse image searched Gabor72's profile picture on WatZatSong and found his Facebook account, where it was revealed that he had died on March 6th, 2024.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1cmgxd1/gabor_is_dead_we_found_his_facebook_and_his_wife/</ref> | ||
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On May 9th, 2024, reddit user Rich-Truck-2820 contacted Gabor's daughter via email, where she revealed that he was from Hungary and had downloaded the song from Limewire.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1cnyfsf/message_from_gabors_daughter/</ref> Three days later, she revealed to user DodoBird4444 that Gabor had a strong preference for Italian music, which if not downloaded online, was recorded from Hungarian radio between 1985 and 1996, and Gabor did not own any vinyl records.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1cqddin/new_info_from_gabors_daughter/</ref> | On May 9th, 2024, reddit user Rich-Truck-2820 contacted Gabor's daughter via email, where she revealed that he was from Hungary and had downloaded the song from Limewire.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1cnyfsf/message_from_gabors_daughter/</ref> Three days later, she revealed to user DodoBird4444 that Gabor had a strong preference for Italian music, which if not downloaded online, was recorded from Hungarian radio between 1985 and 1996, and Gabor did not own any vinyl records.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1cqddin/new_info_from_gabors_daughter/</ref> | ||
== Discovery == | == Discovery == | ||
On June 30th, 2024, Gabor's daughter discovered the full version of the song on his computer and promptly uploaded it to Google Drive<ref name=":0">https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1ds6qrf/found/</ref> | On June 30th, 2024, Gabor's daughter discovered the full version of the song on his computer and promptly uploaded it to Google Drive.<ref name=":0">https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1ds6qrf/found/</ref> Through this full version, searchers were able to find a listing in the GEMA database called "Just A Game" by Christof Bachmeier''',''' a German multi-instrumentalist who has produced music for TV since 1997,<ref>https://nebraskarecords.de/about/christof-bachmeier-2/</ref><ref>https://www.discogs.com/release/16278650-Various-Die-BR-Comedy-Show/</ref> and has recorded AOR music similar in style to the song.<ref>https://ghostarchive.org/varchive/Jpegk8j-ywQ</ref> Additionally, the song has an alternate title of "Here I Stand, All Alone Again", which is the first line of the song and has the same runtime.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1ds92d5/just_a_game_by_christof_bachmeier/</ref> | ||
Bachmeier was contacted on July 1st, 2024, and confirmed he composed the song, stating that the full version only exists on vinyl and that he plans to create a new digital version from the original master tape.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1dspspd/christof_bachmeier_confirms_he_made_just_a_game_gg/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1dt4tkn/christof_bachmeier_update/</ref> | |||
Bachmeier explained on July 2nd, 2024, that the song was written in 1988 for a charity concert for African children and recorded by Change To Win, a German supergroup formed specifically for the event. The band created 500 singles and sold them at a live concert where the song was performed with a large band, and all the money went to charity.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1dtk8sb/christof_bachmeier_update_just_a_game_on_vinyl/</ref> | |||
== Debunked Leads == | == Debunked Leads == | ||
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* '''"Rillo.exe" lead''': Hoax, confirmed by OP<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1d8m55x/i_am_in_contact_with_the_potential_creator_of_jag/</ref><ref>https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1d9j2gw/update_with_the_email/</ref> | * '''"Rillo.exe" lead''': Hoax, confirmed by OP<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1d8m55x/i_am_in_contact_with_the_potential_creator_of_jag/</ref><ref>https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1d9j2gw/update_with_the_email/</ref> | ||
==Lyrics== | == Lyrics == | ||
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible" role="presentation" | |||
|'''Presumed Lyrics''' | |||
'''(Verse 1)''' | |- | ||
|'''(Verse 1) - Christof Bachmeier''' | |||
Here I stand all alone again | Here I stand all alone again | ||
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To live for the moment, be happy with me | To live for the moment, be happy with me | ||
But I lost the chance 'cause I didn't | But I lost the chance 'cause I didn't take to my heart | ||
And it hurts so much to feel everything has gone | And it hurts so much to feel everything has gone | ||
'''(Verse 2)''' | '''(Verse 2) - Regina Simon''' | ||
Lets make a new start | Lets make a new start | ||
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And you won't understand until your back is to the wall | And you won't understand until your back is to the wall | ||
'''(Chorus)''' | '''(Chorus) - Mario Lehner''' | ||
And now I know, it's just a game | And now I know, it's just a game | ||
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But you can't choose the way to play | But you can't choose the way to play | ||
'''(Verse 3)''' | '''(Verse 3) - Karli Mayer''' | ||
Dead or alive, that's the password (I put in time?) | Dead or alive, that's the password (I put in time?) | ||
We've got all | We've got all we want, but we got no time to leave | ||
Oh, we don't care about, the real things in life | Oh, we don't care about, the real things in life | ||
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While we kill ourselves, for a little bit of printed paper | While we kill ourselves, for a little bit of printed paper | ||
Oh god, and we will | Oh god, and we will understand until our back is to the wall | ||
'''(Chorus)''' | '''(Chorus) - All vocalists''' | ||
And now I know, it's just a game | And now I know, it's just a game | ||
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But you can't choose the way to play | But you can't choose the way to play | ||
'''(Guitar Solo)''' | '''''(Guitar Solo)''''' | ||
And now I know, it's just a game | And now I know, it's just a game | ||
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To play, no rules | To play, no rules | ||
|} | |||
==Personnel== | |||
* [https://www.discogs.com/artist/8295273-Christof-Bachmeier Christof Bachmeier] – vocals, bass, piano | |||
* [https://www.discogs.com/artist/2530723-Regina-Simon Regina Simon] – vocals | |||
* Karli Mayer – vocals | |||
* [https://www.discogs.com/artist/675605-Mario-Lehner Mario Lehner] – vocals (chorus) | |||
* [https://www.discogs.com/artist/2728216-Gerhard-Schleifer Gerhard "Angel" Schleifer] – guitar | |||
* [https://www.discogs.com/artist/788302-Wolfgang-Lohmeier Wolfgang Lohmeier] – drums | |||
==References== | ==References== | ||
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*[https://youtu.be/xjUIyeJn70w?feature=shared Song for comparison with Christof Bachmeier.] | *[https://youtu.be/xjUIyeJn70w?feature=shared Song for comparison with Christof Bachmeier.] | ||
[[Category: | [[Category:Identified]] | ||
[[Category:Rock]] | [[Category:Rock]] | ||
Latest revision as of 16:27, 22 August 2024
ⓘ This lostwave is classified as solved. | |
| Just A Game | |
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| Alternative name(s) | Here I Stand, All Alone Again, (And) Now I Know It's Just a Game, Choose The Way To Play, Rules To Play |
|---|---|
| Artist(s) | Change To Win (Christof Bachmeier, Regina Simon, Mario Lehner, Karli Mayer) |
| Genre | Rock |
| Length | 4:52 |
| Year | 1988 |
| Original poster | Gabor72 |
| Search duration | 2018 - 2024 |
| File:JustAGameMasterTape.mp3 | |
Just A Game is a solved rock / AOR (album-oriented rock) song that was uploaded to WatZatSong by Gabor72 on December 22nd, 2018. On July 1st 2024, it was identified as Just A Game by Christof Bachmeier.
Background[edit | edit source]
On December 22nd, 2018, WatZatSong user Gabor72 shared a snippet of a mysterious song. The song received little to no traction, with no attention for approximately five years,[1] until late 2023, when multiple YouTube reuploads of the song were published, increasing its popularity.[2][3][4] The OP was determined to be from either Italy or Hungary based on the large number of Italian song uploads and the fact that Gabor is a common Hungarian name.[5]
On May 7th, 2024, searchers reverse image searched Gabor72's profile picture on WatZatSong and found his Facebook account, where it was revealed that he had died on March 6th, 2024.[6]
On May 9th, 2024, reddit user Rich-Truck-2820 contacted Gabor's daughter via email, where she revealed that he was from Hungary and had downloaded the song from Limewire.[7] Three days later, she revealed to user DodoBird4444 that Gabor had a strong preference for Italian music, which if not downloaded online, was recorded from Hungarian radio between 1985 and 1996, and Gabor did not own any vinyl records.[8]
Discovery[edit | edit source]
On June 30th, 2024, Gabor's daughter discovered the full version of the song on his computer and promptly uploaded it to Google Drive.[9] Through this full version, searchers were able to find a listing in the GEMA database called "Just A Game" by Christof Bachmeier, a German multi-instrumentalist who has produced music for TV since 1997,[10][11] and has recorded AOR music similar in style to the song.[12] Additionally, the song has an alternate title of "Here I Stand, All Alone Again", which is the first line of the song and has the same runtime.[13]
Bachmeier was contacted on July 1st, 2024, and confirmed he composed the song, stating that the full version only exists on vinyl and that he plans to create a new digital version from the original master tape.[14][15]
Bachmeier explained on July 2nd, 2024, that the song was written in 1988 for a charity concert for African children and recorded by Change To Win, a German supergroup formed specifically for the event. The band created 500 singles and sold them at a live concert where the song was performed with a large band, and all the money went to charity.[16]
Debunked Leads[edit | edit source]
- Shower Team - Just A Game:[17]
- GustI Lütjens & Nina Blazewski - Game of Love:[18][19]
- Millennya - Just A Game: Not the same song[20]
- Cats in Exile - All A Game: Not the same song[21]
- The Love Buttons: Now I Know:[22] Not the same song[23]
- Limited Edition: Packet From Herbie: Not on the album[24]
- The Answer - Just A Game[25]: Not the same song[26]
- Piero Cotto: Did not make the song[27]
- The Strategy/Yvonne Morrison: Did not make the song[28]
- The Flower Band - Rules[29][30]: AI hoax[31]
- Soulseek "Full Version": AI hoax[32]
- "Rillo.exe" lead: Hoax, confirmed by OP[33][34]
Lyrics[edit | edit source]
| Presumed Lyrics |
| (Verse 1) - Christof Bachmeier
Here I stand all alone again Now I realize the signs are pushed away A thousand times, I tried to remind myself To live for the moment, be happy with me But I lost the chance 'cause I didn't take to my heart And it hurts so much to feel everything has gone (Verse 2) - Regina Simon Lets make a new start and realize what we're doin' Not the money, or the power Will catch you when you fall See the children in the desert See the hopeless, desperate eyes Ask the father what he feels, when his hungry baby cries But I lost the chance 'cause you tried to get it all And you won't understand until your back is to the wall (Chorus) - Mario Lehner And now I know, it's just a game and I don't need the rules to play Maybe it's happy, maybe it's sad But you can't choose the way to play And now I know, it's just a game and I don't need the rules to play Maybe it's happy, maybe it's sad But you can't choose the way to play (Verse 3) - Karli Mayer Dead or alive, that's the password (I put in time?) We've got all we want, but we got no time to leave Oh, we don't care about, the real things in life While we kill ourselves, for a little bit of printed paper Oh god, and we will understand until our back is to the wall (Chorus) - All vocalists And now I know, it's just a game and I don't need the rules to play Maybe it's happy, maybe it's sad But you can't choose the way to play And now I know, it's just a game and I don't need the rules to play Maybe it's happy, maybe it's sad But you can't choose the way to play (Guitar Solo) And now I know, it's just a game and I don't need the rules to play Maybe it's happy, maybe it's sad But you can't choose (you can't!) And now I know, it's just a game and I don't need the rules to play Maybe it's happy, maybe it's sad But you can't choose the way to play And now I know (Oh now I know), it's just a game (It's just a game) and I don't need the rules to play Maybe it's happy, maybe it's sad (Maybe it's happy, maybe it's sad) But you can't choose the way to play And now I know, it's just a game and I don't need the rules to play Maybe it's happy, maybe it's sad (oh, it's sad, so sad) But you can't choose the way to play (Outro) I need no rules to play No rules to play I don't need no rules to play To play, no rules |
Personnel[edit | edit source]
- Christof Bachmeier – vocals, bass, piano
- Regina Simon – vocals
- Karli Mayer – vocals
- Mario Lehner – vocals (chorus)
- Gerhard "Angel" Schleifer – guitar
- Wolfgang Lohmeier – drums
References[edit | edit source]
- Just A Game Lead Document
- The original WatZatSong snippet.
- Song for comparison with Christof Bachmeier.
- ↑ https://www.watzatsong.com/en/name-that-tune/584899.html
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNMoNr9otpA
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FN99t4ef9k
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfv07P161Fs
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cmhodc/we_need_more_help_to_find_just_a_game/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1cmgxd1/gabor_is_dead_we_found_his_facebook_and_his_wife/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1cnyfsf/message_from_gabors_daughter/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1cqddin/new_info_from_gabors_daughter/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1ds6qrf/found/
- ↑ https://nebraskarecords.de/about/christof-bachmeier-2/
- ↑ https://www.discogs.com/release/16278650-Various-Die-BR-Comedy-Show/
- ↑ https://ghostarchive.org/varchive/Jpegk8j-ywQ
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1ds92d5/just_a_game_by_christof_bachmeier/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1dspspd/christof_bachmeier_confirms_he_made_just_a_game_gg/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1dt4tkn/christof_bachmeier_update/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1dtk8sb/christof_bachmeier_update_just_a_game_on_vinyl/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1apbc95/we_can_officially_rule_out_shower_teams_just_a/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cedf5e/a_possible_lead_on_the_just_a_game_song_is_it/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1cs62pt/guys_are_yall_just_ignoring_the_gusti_l%C3%BCtjens_lead/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/southarchive/comments/1d95cn1/milenya/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1dixsnv/comment/l9bswdh/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1d0pb98/maybe_something_to_look_into/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1d1og31/jo_bisseker_lead_vocalist_of_the_love_buttons/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1dg3u31/packet_from_herbie_limited_edition_debunked/
- ↑ https://imgur.com/IlAOQPK
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1d2ix10/the_answer_didnt_make_jag/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1d3zqu0/piero_cotto_did_not_song_jag/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1dcn0m2/yvonne_morrison_confirms_it_is_not_her/
- ↑ https://lostmediawiki.com/Just_A_Game_(partially_found_full_version_of_unidentified_song;_date_unknown)
- ↑ https://vocaroo.com/1fEbTPuco1pl
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1ddbc3f/regarding_hoaxes/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1da222a/full_song_confirmed_ai_hoax/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1d8m55x/i_am_in_contact_with_the_potential_creator_of_jag/
- ↑ https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/NowIKnowItsJustAGame/comments/1d9j2gw/update_with_the_email/