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|Alt_name = Coming Home / This Winter / Season at the CIA
|Alt_name = Coming Home / This Winter / Season at the CIA
|Year = c. 1984
|Year = c. 1984
|Genre =Post Punk  
|Genre =new wave / Post Punk  
|Search_started = 2020
|Search_started = 2020
|OP = datafreq
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'''CIA''' (also known as '''"Are You Coming Home", "This Winter"''' or '''"Season At The CIA"''') is an unknown post-punk song uploaded to YouTube in 2020 by DJFormaldehyde.
'''CIA''' (also known as '''"Are You Coming Home", "This Winter"''' or '''"Season At The CIA"''') is an unknown new wave / post-punk song uploaded to YouTube in 2020 by DJFormaldehyde.
   
   
==Origins and Search==
==Origins and Search==
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DJFormaldehyde posted CIA to YouTube and the New Wave Outpost forums on July 20, 2020.<ref>https://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=43033</ref> The song was discovered on a tape made by a friend of DJFormaldehyde that included songs recorded from CFNY-FM Spirit of Radio,<ref>https://spiritofradio.ca/SongSearchAdd.asp</ref> a Canadian radio station known at the time for playing new wave, electronic, and alternative music.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q46N3IYg0Y</ref>  
DJFormaldehyde posted CIA to YouTube and the New Wave Outpost forums on July 20, 2020.<ref>https://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=43033</ref> The song was discovered on a tape made by a friend of DJFormaldehyde that included songs recorded from CFNY-FM Spirit of Radio,<ref>https://spiritofradio.ca/SongSearchAdd.asp</ref> a Canadian radio station known at the time for playing new wave, electronic, and alternative music.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q46N3IYg0Y</ref>  
   
   
The song was likely not recorded after July 1984 because the song "You Think You're A Man" by American performance artist Divine, which was released in July 1984, was the newest song on the tape.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q46N3IYg0Y&lc=Ugy8fLb1rOtbRp6ihmt4AaABAg.9eBIl25Qaqt9eE84dacDLB</ref> The majority of the songs on the tape were British in origin, dating from 1980 to 1984.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1eg9tk0/regarding_the_cia_recording_my_friend_who_owns/</ref>
The song was almost certainly recorded after July 1984 because the song "You Think You're A Man" by American performance artist Divine, which was released in July 1984, was the newest song on the tape.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q46N3IYg0Y&lc=Ugy8fLb1rOtbRp6ihmt4AaABAg.9eBIl25Qaqt9eE84dacDLB</ref> Two versions of "You Think You're A Man" appear on the tape; both before and after CIA.  The majority of the songs on the tape were British in origin, dating from 1980 to 1984.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1eg9tk0/regarding_the_cia_recording_my_friend_who_owns/</ref>
   
   
The search for CIA gained traction in November 2021, with the song making its way to the lostwave subreddit and being reuploaded multiple times that year.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/r0tr1t/cia_unknown_postpunk_song_recorded_in_canada/</ref> This was also the year that Alan Cross, who was a radio broadcaster at CFNY from 1986 onwards, uploaded the song to his website, broadening the search.<ref>https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com/interested-in-solving-some-musical-mysteries-try-to-identify-these-songs/</ref>  
The search for CIA gained traction in November 2021, with the song making its way to the lostwave subreddit and being reuploaded multiple times that year.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/r0tr1t/cia_unknown_postpunk_song_recorded_in_canada/</ref> This was also the year that Alan Cross, who was a radio broadcaster at CFNY from 1986 onwards, uploaded the song to his website, broadening the search.<ref>https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com/interested-in-solving-some-musical-mysteries-try-to-identify-these-songs/</ref>  
   
   
It is assumed that CIA was aired once as part of CFNY's annual Talent Search contest. The contest airs fifty songs annually, typically broadcasting bands with zero exposure or releases.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1d5nyli/cia_an_update/</ref>
It is suspected that CIA may have been aired as part of CFNY's 5th annual Great Ontario Talent Search contest.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1d5nyli/cia_an_update/</ref> That year's contest aired songs by 102 unsigned Ontario bands from October 8, 1984 to late February, 1985.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/CIAlostwave/comments/1lug7ze/great_ontario_talent_search/</ref>
   
   
==Leads==
== Leads ==
   
   
=== Possible ===
=== Possible ===
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[[Category:Post punk]]
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CIA
Alternative name(s) Coming Home / This Winter / Season at the CIA
Genre new wave / Post Punk
Year c. 1984
Original poster datafreq
Search started 2020
File:CIA.mp3

CIA (also known as "Are You Coming Home", "This Winter" or "Season At The CIA") is an unknown new wave / post-punk song uploaded to YouTube in 2020 by DJFormaldehyde.

Origins and Search

On February 21, 2020, user datafreq first uploaded the song to the New Wave Outpost forums, sourced from a cassette tape recorded in Canada in 1984.[1]

On April 8, 2020, the song's lyrics were uploaded to the music identification website Spirit of Radio by user Synthman78, claiming that it was a new wave song from 1985.[2]

DJFormaldehyde posted CIA to YouTube and the New Wave Outpost forums on July 20, 2020.[3] The song was discovered on a tape made by a friend of DJFormaldehyde that included songs recorded from CFNY-FM Spirit of Radio,[4] a Canadian radio station known at the time for playing new wave, electronic, and alternative music.[5]

The song was almost certainly recorded after July 1984 because the song "You Think You're A Man" by American performance artist Divine, which was released in July 1984, was the newest song on the tape.[6] Two versions of "You Think You're A Man" appear on the tape; both before and after CIA. The majority of the songs on the tape were British in origin, dating from 1980 to 1984.[7]

The search for CIA gained traction in November 2021, with the song making its way to the lostwave subreddit and being reuploaded multiple times that year.[8] This was also the year that Alan Cross, who was a radio broadcaster at CFNY from 1986 onwards, uploaded the song to his website, broadening the search.[9]

It is suspected that CIA may have been aired as part of CFNY's 5th annual Great Ontario Talent Search contest.[10] That year's contest aired songs by 102 unsigned Ontario bands from October 8, 1984 to late February, 1985.[11]

Leads

Possible

  • Bradford Reaves: CIA Blues:[12][13] Unlikely, because Reaves' known music is in the folk rock style.

Debunked

  • 4th Floor - Coming Home: An early lead suggested that the song was by the Alternative Rock band 4th Floor, as they had a song on Discogs called "Coming Home" that was released in 1984.[14] At the time, the album was not uploaded; however, when the cassette was converted and uploaded, this lead was disproven.[15][16]
  • Zebra - CIA:[17]
  • The Reform - CIA: In early 2024, speculation centered on the song "CIA" by The Reform, a rock/power pop song released in 1986 by a US band.[18] This was aided by the fact that the track length corresponded to the commonly uploaded length for the lost song CIA.[19] This lead was debunked after the vinyl was digitized and the song was uploaded.[20]
  • Conditioned Response:[21]
  • The Switch - Coming Home:[22]

Lyrics

References

  1. https://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=42844
  2. https://spiritofradio.ca/SongComments.asp?SongID=3233
  3. https://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=43033
  4. https://spiritofradio.ca/SongSearchAdd.asp
  5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q46N3IYg0Y
  6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q46N3IYg0Y&lc=Ugy8fLb1rOtbRp6ihmt4AaABAg.9eBIl25Qaqt9eE84dacDLB
  7. https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1eg9tk0/regarding_the_cia_recording_my_friend_who_owns/
  8. https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/r0tr1t/cia_unknown_postpunk_song_recorded_in_canada/
  9. https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com/interested-in-solving-some-musical-mysteries-try-to-identify-these-songs/
  10. https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1d5nyli/cia_an_update/
  11. https://www.reddit.com/r/CIAlostwave/comments/1lug7ze/great_ontario_talent_search/
  12. https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18vmgjb/i_might_have_found_the_artist_who_made_the_cia/
  13. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5fRCT1hWAw
  14. https://www.discogs.com/release/12448615-4th-Floor-4th-Floor
  15. https://www.youtube.com/embed/SDTrvxl8XOQ
  16. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q46N3IYg0Y&lc=UgzVpvg3_93l-HR2MFh4AaABAg
  17. https://www.youtube.com/embed/WCHmjJ72rXY
  18. https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/189yuf7/hmmmmmmmmm/
  19. https://www.discogs.com/release/13839352-The-Reform-CIA-Gimme-Your-Love
  20. https://archive.org/details/the-reform-cia
  21. https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1amcyrf/conditioned_response_is_not_responsible_for_cia/
  22. https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1d4u0r8/cia_isnt_coming_home_by_the_switch/