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'''The Fallen King''' or '''Fall of the King''' is an unknown song taped off Dallas Texas radio station, '''Z-Rock''', in the mid-to-late 80s by '''Sled1025''' on the HMR Forums and '''Armador Thrash''' on twitter.  
'''The Fallen King''' or '''Fall of the King''' is an unknown song taped off Dallas Texas radio station, '''Z-Rock''', in the mid-to-late 80s by '''Sled1025''' on the Encyclopaedia Metallum forums and '''Armador Thrash''' on Twitter.  


== Origins ==
== Origins ==
On September 3, 2009, user Sled1025 of the HMR forums, a hub for conversations about metal bands, posted a query about the song taped from the Dallas based rock and metal station, Z-Rock. Sled1025 said that all the songs on the tape were released in 1988 or earlier. They transcribed the lyrics and provided an MP3 file of the track. The search went quiet after this.
On September 3, 2009, user Sled1025 of the Encyclopaedia Metallum forums, a hub for discussions about metal bands, posted in a thread dedicated to identifying songs to ask users to identify a song taped from Dallas-based rock and metal station Z-Rock. Sled1025 claimed that all of the songs on the tape were released in 1988 or earlier. They transcribed the lyrics and provided an MP3 version of the track.<ref>https://forum.metal-archives.com/viewtopic.php?p=1342956#p1342956</ref>


== Revived Search ==
== Revived Search ==
On December 3rd 2020, Armador Thrash tweeted asking for help with finding an unknown metal song recorded from Z-Rock in 1987. They tagged the user Metalattackers in hopes that they would spread it and other enthusiasts would remember the song. A day later, discussion about the song moved to back to the HMR Forums, where it was suggested that the lyrics could be searched on the Metal Archives. When this proved fruitless, the song was uploaded to YouTube. User Poserkiller suggested the song could be "Fall of the King" by Redd Barron, giving the song its placeholder name. On the 15th of December, the Youtube upload was shared to the Cult Metal Classics Facebook page.
On December 3rd, 2020, Twitter user Armador Thrash asked for help in finding an unknown metal song recorded from Z-Rock in 1987.<ref>https://x.com/ArmadorThrash99/status/1336103548594098183</ref> A day later, the discussion about the song continued on the Heavy Metal Rarities Forums, where it was suggested that the lyrics could be found in the Metal Archives. When this proved unsuccessful, the song was uploaded to YouTube.<ref>https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084#gsc.tab=0</ref> User Poserkiller suggested that the song be called "Fall of the King" by Redd Barron, giving the song its placeholder name.<ref>https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084&sid=3d6e4d781d251ae6c4eda10968dd4f79#p211133</ref>


Around 2021, the song was submitted to Power Metal Station SIRIUSXM and it was speculated the DJ that played the song on Z-Rock was Pat Dawsey. A post was made about the song on r/lostwave which created a lot of community speculation.
In late 2020, Armador Thrash submitted the song to Ian Christe's ROOTS metal history show on SiriusXM Liquid Metal, seeking help in identifying the band.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opaL6a-OMKw</ref> A post was made about the song on r/lostwave which furthered interest in the song.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/kcsui4/unknown_80s_power_metal_band/</ref>


== Debunked or Partial Leads ==
== Debunked or Possible Leads ==
Redd Barron was one of the first leads to be raised, as they had a song titled "Fall of the King" which matched key lyrics in the song, however, fans of the band said this was purely a coincidence and Redd Barron uploaded a version of their song in 2020 which proved that the two songs were different.


Haven was a band discussed in the 2020 HMR Forums posts that was also quickly debunked. Another group, Z-Rose was brought up as a possible lead, however by 2021, this had been debunked by reaching out to members of the band.
=== Possible ===


Fall of the King is a hard lostwave to research - unconfirmed information about many leads has been raised without follow up and a lot of bands cannot be contacted or haven't been contacted, so most threads are left dangling. For example, the band Blackmayne was raised as a possibility but could not be contacted on Facebook, leading to the theory only being debunked by circumstantial evidence rather than rebuttal.
* '''Pathfinder''': A Canadian band who only released a demo in 1985.<ref>https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Pathfinder/Demo_1985/865343</ref>
* '''Pat Dawsey''': Possible Z-Rock DJ who originally played the song on the radio<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/kcsui4/comment/gfuf4c7/</ref>:
* '''Zion/Draggone''':  A Californian band, which is being investigated because a song called "Glory to the King" from 1987 is attributed to them.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1csvas8/another_possible_but_unlikely_lead/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1b3jz0w/theory_for_lost_song_fall_of_the_king_aka_the/</ref>
* '''Christopher Janata''': A 1983 song titled "Fallen King" found in a Cocatalog entry.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18fucxn/contacting_christopher_c_janata_for_the/</ref>


Currently, a Californian band called Draggone (formally named Zion) is being investigated because a song called "Glory to the King" from 1987 is attributed to them.
=== Debunked ===
 
* '''Redd Barron''': Was one of the first leads to be raised, as they had a song titled "Fall of the King" which matched lyrics in the song, however, fans of the band said this was purely a coincidence and Redd Barron uploaded a version of their song in 2020 which proved that the two songs were different.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEP7SCX5JXs</ref>
 
* '''Haven:''' A band discussed in the 2020 HMR Forums posts that was also quickly debunked.<ref>https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084#p212081</ref>
* '''Baron Steele'''<ref>https://files.catbox.moe/hwiwg6.PNG</ref>
* '''Bernard E. Cavazos'''<ref>https://files.catbox.moe/dnvmz7.PNG</ref>
* '''Kinetic Dissent'''<ref>https://files.catbox.moe/4liuu4.jpg</ref>
* '''Conquest'''<ref>https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084&start=60#p252062</ref>
* '''Z'Rose'''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1cih0uk/finding_zrose_to_rule_them_out_once_and_for_all/</ref>
* '''Talon'''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1d3krdy/all_the_possible_leads_so_far/</ref>
* '''Blackmayne'''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1cgw96k/comment/l2svejm/</ref>
* '''Sentinel'''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1d3krdy/all_the_possible_leads_so_far/</ref>


==Outside Links:==
==Outside Links:==

Revision as of 13:13, 20 June 2024

ⓘ This lostwave is classified as unsolved.

The Fallen King

Image associated with the song
Alternative name(s) Fall of the King, Fallen King, King is Fallen; TFK, FK, FOTK
Genre Power metal
Year 1987-1989
Status Unsolved; Almost full version available
Original poster sled1025
Search started 2009

The Fallen King or Fall of the King is an unknown song taped off Dallas Texas radio station, Z-Rock, in the mid-to-late 80s by Sled1025 on the Encyclopaedia Metallum forums and Armador Thrash on Twitter.

Origins

On September 3, 2009, user Sled1025 of the Encyclopaedia Metallum forums, a hub for discussions about metal bands, posted in a thread dedicated to identifying songs to ask users to identify a song taped from Dallas-based rock and metal station Z-Rock. Sled1025 claimed that all of the songs on the tape were released in 1988 or earlier. They transcribed the lyrics and provided an MP3 version of the track.[1]

Revived Search

On December 3rd, 2020, Twitter user Armador Thrash asked for help in finding an unknown metal song recorded from Z-Rock in 1987.[2] A day later, the discussion about the song continued on the Heavy Metal Rarities Forums, where it was suggested that the lyrics could be found in the Metal Archives. When this proved unsuccessful, the song was uploaded to YouTube.[3] User Poserkiller suggested that the song be called "Fall of the King" by Redd Barron, giving the song its placeholder name.[4]

In late 2020, Armador Thrash submitted the song to Ian Christe's ROOTS metal history show on SiriusXM Liquid Metal, seeking help in identifying the band.[5] A post was made about the song on r/lostwave which furthered interest in the song.[6]

Debunked or Possible Leads

Possible

  • Pathfinder: A Canadian band who only released a demo in 1985.[7]
  • Pat Dawsey: Possible Z-Rock DJ who originally played the song on the radio[8]:
  • Zion/Draggone: A Californian band, which is being investigated because a song called "Glory to the King" from 1987 is attributed to them.[9][10]
  • Christopher Janata: A 1983 song titled "Fallen King" found in a Cocatalog entry.[11]

Debunked

  • Redd Barron: Was one of the first leads to be raised, as they had a song titled "Fall of the King" which matched lyrics in the song, however, fans of the band said this was purely a coincidence and Redd Barron uploaded a version of their song in 2020 which proved that the two songs were different.[12]
  • Haven: A band discussed in the 2020 HMR Forums posts that was also quickly debunked.[13]
  • Baron Steele[14]
  • Bernard E. Cavazos[15]
  • Kinetic Dissent[16]
  • Conquest[17]
  • Z'Rose[18]
  • Talon[19]
  • Blackmayne[20]
  • Sentinel[21]

Outside Links:

  1. ↑ https://forum.metal-archives.com/viewtopic.php?p=1342956#p1342956
  2. ↑ https://x.com/ArmadorThrash99/status/1336103548594098183
  3. ↑ https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084#gsc.tab=0
  4. ↑ https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084&sid=3d6e4d781d251ae6c4eda10968dd4f79#p211133
  5. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opaL6a-OMKw
  6. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/kcsui4/unknown_80s_power_metal_band/
  7. ↑ https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Pathfinder/Demo_1985/865343
  8. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/kcsui4/comment/gfuf4c7/
  9. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1csvas8/another_possible_but_unlikely_lead/
  10. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1b3jz0w/theory_for_lost_song_fall_of_the_king_aka_the/
  11. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18fucxn/contacting_christopher_c_janata_for_the/
  12. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEP7SCX5JXs
  13. ↑ https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084#p212081
  14. ↑ https://files.catbox.moe/hwiwg6.PNG
  15. ↑ https://files.catbox.moe/dnvmz7.PNG
  16. ↑ https://files.catbox.moe/4liuu4.jpg
  17. ↑ https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084&start=60#p252062
  18. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1cih0uk/finding_zrose_to_rule_them_out_once_and_for_all/
  19. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1d3krdy/all_the_possible_leads_so_far/
  20. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1cgw96k/comment/l2svejm/
  21. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1d3krdy/all_the_possible_leads_so_far/
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