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'''Dreams 4ever''', previously known as '''La Cancion De Alicia''' or '''Under The Stars''', is a solved lostwave of the band '''Bad Influence'''.
'''Dreams 4ever ('''formally known as "'''La Canción de Alicia'''" and "'''Under The Stars'''") is a solved psychedelic rock song that originated on the Facebook group Lost Media Perdidos Posting.  


==Background==
==Background (July 2021)==
The song was uploaded to several Facebook groups before July 3, 2021. The lostwave snippet was uploaded along with an edit of Alice In Wonderland. Jitomate Triste was the original poster, but he was banned shortly after posting for unknown reasons.
Sometime before July 3rd, 2021, a Facebook user named Jitomate Triste posts on Facebook, either in his private feed or in a private group, asking for the song's name. A video edit of the song, featuring footage from Disney's animated film Alice in Wonderland, was attached to the post. Jitomate Tristes' posts received little attention and were dismissed.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20231123172455/https://www.facebook.com/1261341603/videos/3148428885376852/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/LaCancionDeAlicia/comments/1be0xcd/lcda_lcda_related_timeline/</ref> 


On July 3, 2021, Daniel Gutierrez uploaded a screen recording of Jitomate Triste’s post on Facebook group “Lost Media Perdidos Posting”, which would be reuploaded on Youtube some days later.
On July 3rd, 2021, Facebook user Daniel Gutierrez uploaded a screen recording of Jitomate Triste's post on the Facebook group "Lost Media Perdidos Posting",<ref>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cj5ixC9WV5o66ciSr03SJWE8XWnfYeWQcImwOum6OUo/edit#heading=h.m9cluo6duc9h</ref> which would be reuploaded on YouTube by user Javk Ani- -ZnKyak on July 4th, 2021.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8OmEBMn-ys</ref> 


==Previous Leads==
==Previous Leads (September 2021 - May 2024)==
The search began gaining traction in September of that year. As a community began forming, it became widely thought that the singer is not a native English speaker and most likely has a Spanish accent.  
The search got traction in September 2021 on the Spanish internet, when it was initially uploaded on r/lostmedia and r/lostwave by users Longjumping-Table819 and GameMonkeyDev respectively.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/lostmedia/comments/pisug4/hi_everybody_im_from_lost_media_perdidos_posting/</ref><ref name=":0">https://www.reddit.com/r/lostmedia/comments/pisug4/hi_everybody_im_from_lost_media_perdidos_posting/</ref> As the community grew, it became widely assumed that the singer was not a native English speaker and most likely had a Spanish accent.<ref name=":0" />


On October 21, 2021, YouTube user @yoyoyo8230 posted the first of a series of 3 videos, titled ""La Canción de Alicia" (Lost Media) Misterio Revelado", each video being only a still drawing of Alice in Wonderland. The audio, although seemingly unrelated to the search, was made up of songs by a long-gone group nicknamed "Gin Toc", short for "Gin and Tonic". In the comment section of the videos, @yoyoyo8230 proceeded to give more details on how he came in possession of these tracks :<blockquote>I have worked in a recording studio years ago and I have kept a LOT of material from Chilean bands who recorded in the studio : demos, rehearsals, studio versions.</blockquote>
In mid-October 2021, a YouTube user named 'Yo yoyo' suggested that Gin & Tonic could have created the song. The band in question began in Chile, was formed in 2001, and split sometime in 2005. The group only released one album, Free as the Sun, which contained English vocals and had a similar musical style.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20041030142422/http://www.bandasdechile.cl/banda_detalle.php?banda_id=1364</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeCDTKGjbLo</ref>


Ricardo Mendes of Gin & Tonic initially became a big lead, and one of the members of the lostwave community would reach out to him, asking if he recognized the song. Ricardo responded that he had never heard it before, but that he would love to make a cover of it for the community. Later down the line, Richard Mendez would release his cover of “La Cancion De Alicia” on his channel, @richardvox, naming the song “Under The Stars”.  
In late October, some people contacted Gin & Tonic's vocalist, Ricardo Méndez, who confirmed that the song was not created by him or his band. Later, Méndez would record a cover of "La Cancion De Alicia" on his channel, @richardvox, titled "Under The Stars".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6R6-uPMi8E</ref>


==Discovery==
==Discovery==
On 16 May 2024, the Reddit user '''JMike''' shared the discovery of the song. He had showed the snippet to a friend at university who said she had been a friend of one member of the band called "Bad Influence", which according to her, would be the band that produced the song.  
On May 16th, 2024, Reddit user JMike_324 shared his discovery of the song, which he found after showing it to a friend at a university, who recognized it as being by Peruvian band "Bad Influence".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cttng2/we_found_la_cancion_de_alicia/</ref> They linked to a post from November 29th, 2018, in which the band performed the song live; the song's name was revealed to be "Dreams 4ever," and was recorded in November 2018.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/100063153434308/videos/2049906881755656/?mibextid=oFDknk&rdid=YyEfKwHGV0eJq1hE</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhJRc3W3dk4</ref>


In the same day, JMike found a video on the band page on Facebook titled "Barranco, Hipster City", which was a live performance of the song, proving that the band Bad Influence was actually the author of the song. The name of the song was revealed to be "Dreams 4ever", recorded sometime before 2018.
The Alice in Wonderland edit was created by the band's guitarist and uploaded to Indie 505's Facebook page, but it was deleted an hour later. This is where Jitomate Triste, a member of the page, downloaded and re-uploaded the video.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cu276e/message_from_one_of_the_members_of_bad_influence/</ref>


The band's guitarist spoke to the community on the Fond My Mind Discord server, saying they had created the trippy edit and posted it in a Facebook group, but sometime later it had been deleted by admins. This is likely where Jitomate Triste found the video and downloaded it.  
The following day, on May 17th, 2024, the studio version was found and posted by JMike_324 on his YouTube channel.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cu6z7c/la_canci%C3%B3n_de_alicia_hq_demo_version/</ref>


<blockquote>
== Lyrics ==
"In 2019, I decided to make an edit of Alicia using an old demo we recorded and some gifs I found on Google, using Inshot on a 2gb ram phone lol. I couldn't convince the band to post the video on our page, so I uploaded it to the Indie 505 group, which was deleted a few hours later.
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|'''Presumed Lyrics'''
|-
|'''(Verse 1)'''Last night I could find, something warm
In the middle of the night it calls me


On 17 May 2024, the studio version was found, posted by JMike on the same day.
Between the life and death, you decide
 
A million miles away, it searches me
 
'''(Refrain)'''
 
When I see your face in the darkness night
 
I just wanna be the only who change your mind
 
But my life is real, you're a simple dream
 
That remember me the love is a mystery
 
Oh please, let me be this boy, who you never forgot
 
I won't close my eyes, but somebody wake me up
 
'''(Verse 1)'''
Last night I could find, something warm
In the middle of the night it calls me
 
Between the life and death, you decide
 
A million miles away, it searches me
 
'''(Refrain)'''
 
When I see your face in the darkness night
 
I just wanna be the only who change your mind
 
But my life is real, you're a simple dream
 
That remember me the love is a mystery
 
Oh please, let me be this boy, who you never forgot
 
I won't close my eyes, but somebody will
 
When I see your face in the darkness night
 
I just wanna be the only who change your mind
 
But my life is real, you're a simple dream
 
That remember me the love is a misery
 
Oh please, let me be this boy, who you never forgot
 
I won't close my eyes, but somebody wake me up
 
'''(Chorus)'''
 
Look at me in the eyes
 
Are you gonna stay by my side?
 
Spending nights together, together
 
Together under the stars
 
‘Cause nobody knows, you could be the first and the last
 
I'm sure it last forever, forever
 
I would make you only mine
 
Look at me in the eyes
 
Are you gonna stay by my side?
 
Spending nights together, together
 
Together under the stars
 
'''''(Guitar Solo)'''''
 
Look at me in the eyes
 
Are you gonna stay by my side? (''Oh, ooh-ooh'')
 
Spending nights together, together (''Oh, oh'')
 
Together under the stars (''Oh, oh, ooh-oh'')
 
‘Cause nobody knows, you could be the first and the last (''Ooh-oh, ooh-oh'')
 
I'm sure it last forever, forever (''Ooh-oh'')
 
I would make you only mine
 
Look at me in the eyes
 
Are you gonna stay by my side? (''Ooh-oh, ooh-oh'')
 
Someday, someday (Zun dada, Zun dada)
 
'Cause nobody knows, you could be the first and the last (''Ooh-oh,ooh-oh, ooh-ooh'')
 
I'm sure it last forever, forever (''Ooh-ooh'')
 
I would make you only mine
 
'''(Outro)'''
 
Baby I’m still dreaming, for what it's worth I can’t
 
Baby believe me, why we just came back to the beginning?
 
Baby believe me, for what it's worth I can’t
 
Baby I’m still dreaming, why we just came back to the beginning?
 
Yeah!
|}
 
== Personnel ==
[https://www.instagram.com/s4nta_nax10/ Diego Salcedo] – vocals
 
[https://www.instagram.com/saldanatje/ Jesús Saldaña] – lead guitar
 
[https://www.instagram.com/bluntttt_t/ Flavio Román] – rhythm guitar, backing vocals
 
[https://www.instagram.com/ml_.carlos/ Carlos Mendoza] – drums


==References==
==References==
*[https://www.facebook.com/watch/ The Facebook video.]
*[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cj5ixC9WV5o66ciSr03SJWE8XWnfYeWQcImwOum6OUo/edit Information Document]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvbFDakLgbY The studio version of the song.]
<references />
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cttng2/we_found_la_cancion_de_alicia/ The JMike's Reddit post.]
 
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Revision as of 10:56, 30 July 2024

ⓘ This lostwave is classified as solved.

Dreams 4ever
Alternative name(s) La Canción de Alicia and Under The Stars
Artist(s) Bad Influence
Genre Psychedelic Rock
Year 2018
Status Solved
Original poster Jitomate Triste
Search duration July 3rd, 2021 - May 16th, 2024
File:Dreams4Ever.mp3

Dreams 4ever (formally known as "La Canción de Alicia" and "Under The Stars") is a solved psychedelic rock song that originated on the Facebook group Lost Media Perdidos Posting.

Background (July 2021)

Sometime before July 3rd, 2021, a Facebook user named Jitomate Triste posts on Facebook, either in his private feed or in a private group, asking for the song's name. A video edit of the song, featuring footage from Disney's animated film Alice in Wonderland, was attached to the post. Jitomate Tristes' posts received little attention and were dismissed.[1][2]

On July 3rd, 2021, Facebook user Daniel Gutierrez uploaded a screen recording of Jitomate Triste's post on the Facebook group "Lost Media Perdidos Posting",[3] which would be reuploaded on YouTube by user Javk Ani- -ZnKyak on July 4th, 2021.[4]

Previous Leads (September 2021 - May 2024)

The search got traction in September 2021 on the Spanish internet, when it was initially uploaded on r/lostmedia and r/lostwave by users Longjumping-Table819 and GameMonkeyDev respectively.[5][6] As the community grew, it became widely assumed that the singer was not a native English speaker and most likely had a Spanish accent.[6]

In mid-October 2021, a YouTube user named 'Yo yoyo' suggested that Gin & Tonic could have created the song. The band in question began in Chile, was formed in 2001, and split sometime in 2005. The group only released one album, Free as the Sun, which contained English vocals and had a similar musical style.[7][8]

In late October, some people contacted Gin & Tonic's vocalist, Ricardo Méndez, who confirmed that the song was not created by him or his band. Later, Méndez would record a cover of "La Cancion De Alicia" on his channel, @richardvox, titled "Under The Stars".[9]

Discovery

On May 16th, 2024, Reddit user JMike_324 shared his discovery of the song, which he found after showing it to a friend at a university, who recognized it as being by Peruvian band "Bad Influence".[10] They linked to a post from November 29th, 2018, in which the band performed the song live; the song's name was revealed to be "Dreams 4ever," and was recorded in November 2018.[11][12]

The Alice in Wonderland edit was created by the band's guitarist and uploaded to Indie 505's Facebook page, but it was deleted an hour later. This is where Jitomate Triste, a member of the page, downloaded and re-uploaded the video.[13]

The following day, on May 17th, 2024, the studio version was found and posted by JMike_324 on his YouTube channel.[14]

Lyrics

Personnel

Diego Salcedo – vocals

Jesús Saldaña – lead guitar

Flavio Román – rhythm guitar, backing vocals

Carlos Mendoza – drums

References

  1. ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20231123172455/https://www.facebook.com/1261341603/videos/3148428885376852/
  2. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/LaCancionDeAlicia/comments/1be0xcd/lcda_lcda_related_timeline/
  3. ↑ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cj5ixC9WV5o66ciSr03SJWE8XWnfYeWQcImwOum6OUo/edit#heading=h.m9cluo6duc9h
  4. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8OmEBMn-ys
  5. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/lostmedia/comments/pisug4/hi_everybody_im_from_lost_media_perdidos_posting/
  6. ↑ 6.0 6.1 https://www.reddit.com/r/lostmedia/comments/pisug4/hi_everybody_im_from_lost_media_perdidos_posting/
  7. ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20041030142422/http://www.bandasdechile.cl/banda_detalle.php?banda_id=1364
  8. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeCDTKGjbLo
  9. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6R6-uPMi8E
  10. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cttng2/we_found_la_cancion_de_alicia/
  11. ↑ https://www.facebook.com/100063153434308/videos/2049906881755656/?mibextid=oFDknk&rdid=YyEfKwHGV0eJq1hE
  12. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhJRc3W3dk4
  13. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cu276e/message_from_one_of_the_members_of_bad_influence/
  14. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1cu6z7c/la_canci%C3%B3n_de_alicia_hq_demo_version/
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