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	ⓘ This lostwave is classified as unsolved.
	Somewhere In The Night
Alternative name(s)	Love's Gonna Find You
Genre	Pop Rock
Year	1980s
Original poster	funky_vinyls_records, gymforma
Search started	2020
	File:Somewhereinthenight.mp3

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Revision as of 22:29, 19 September 2024

Somewhere In The Night is an unidentified pop rock song sourced from an 80s mix by NeonBlue.

Background and Search

"Somewhere In The Night" (SITN) is an unidentified pop rong song originally posted to WatZatSong by user gymforma on November 27th, 2020. On August 28, 2022, gymforma shared a slightly longer 33-second recording on MegaNZ, with filename "request 8.mp3". He shared that he got the song from a collector who we've now identified as NimzoAOR.

On June 13, 2024, a collection of 17 mix videos were found by Floptok, uploaded by a user "funky_vinyls_records" to DailyMotion. One of those mixes, uploaded on May 23, 2008, contains a longer ~47-second snippet of SITN starting at timestamp 6:13. In all, the 17 mixes contain 123 distinct song snippets, of which 120 are identified as of September 20, 2024. The official tracking spreadsheet for funky_vinyls_records' unknowns is here, and more information about the remaining unknowns is here.

After some research and outreach, we're largely confident in the following reconstructed timeline:

funky_vinyls_records uploads a 48-second snippet of SITN to DailyMotion on May 23, 2008, as part of a mix video.
A member of the Lyon Funk community, who we've identified, scrapes part of the snippet and shares it with other people, asking about the origin of the song. This is where the 33-second snippet comes from.
NimzoAOR gets the snippet, and shares it with gymforma
gymforma posts it to WatZatSong in 2020.

There has been ongoing confusion that NeonBlue, another member of the Lyon Funk community, is related to the original posting of SITN. This is now confirmed to be a misunderstanding; specifically NeonBlue is not funky_vinyls_records.

The search has gained popularity in 2023^[1], and is now one of the most sought songs in Lostwave.

Musical Analysis

A slowed sample of the beginning to Giorge Pettus's song "One Time Affair"^[2] featured at the end of the snippet, suggesting that the song was from a mix. This also indicated that Somewhere In The Night was pitch-edited, as confirmed by the fact that in the discovered mix, the track directly before SITN, Something by Lava, was sped up by 15 BPM and pitched F# major, instead of the original E♭ major key.^[3]

Leads

Possible

Alannah Myles: Suggested due to similar vocals and musical style.^[4]
Jan Parker Stevens: Suggested due to similar vocals and musical style.^[5]
Tom Harriman: Suggested due to similar vocals and music style.^[6]
Steve Kipner - Slide Back Lucy - A Demo Retrospective (1982-95): A compilation album of unreleased demos by rock musician Steve Kipner, investigated because three songs are sung by different singers, and one of the songs on this album, Don't Call It Love, was another lost song that was discovered by NeonBlue.^[7]^[8]

Debunked

Phyllis Rhodes: In June 2024, Phyllis Rhodes, former lead singer of the band Saint Tropez, was considered as the singer due to her similar voice.^[9] Reddit user AltariaBoy contacted Rhodes, who initially believed the song was created by AI using her voice.^[10] She did, however, suggest that it could be one of her demos that was never released due to legal or contractual issues,^[11] however it was not found and the lead was debunked.^[12]
Mark Scott: Suggested due to similar vocals and musical style, as well as the discovery of a collection of his unreleased demos on HardRockAORHeaven. Mark Scott confirmed that the song is not composed by him.
Billy Clift - Somewhere In The Night:^[13] Not the same song.^[14]
Cherry Cherry: Suggested in the WatZatSong thread, debunked by OP.^[1]
Paulo Gonzo - Somewhere In the Night:^[15] Not the same song.^[16]
Richard Kerr - Somewhere in the Night:^[15] Not the same song.^[17]
Statement - Somewhere In The Night:^[18] Not the same song.^[19]

Lyrics

Presumed Lyrics

You know I’ve seen that look before

Inside, you're all alone

Looking for the perfect one

Has left you on your own

You think you're running out of time

The time is on your side

Just when you think it's out of reach

It's right before your eyes

Somewhere in the night

Love's gonna find you

You won't have to cry another tear

You don't have to try so hard this time, girl

References

[:0-1] 1.0 ^1.1 https://www.watzatsong.com/en/name-that-tune/682223.html

[2] ttps://youtu.be/nZX5Ucz-ms0?t=5

[3] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1bqor6v/possible_somewhere_in_the_night_original_pitch/

[4] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1cq7pcl/theory_alannah_myles_demo_unreleased_song/

[5] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sp878Yjsfk

[6] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbHiY-DvMg0

[7] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/DreamingNight/comments/1edphcd/has_anyone_looked_into_slide_back_lucy/

[8] ttps://picclick.com/Steve-Kipner-Demos-CD-RARE-Westcoast-AOR-Chicago-164675311942.html

[9] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dan8g4/sitn_lead_phyllis_rhodes/

[10] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1daqw1g/phyllis_rhodes_sitn_solved_by_ualtariaboy/

[11] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dar9l6/phyllis_rhodes_somewhere_in_the_night_most_likely/

[12] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dar9l6/comment/l8xqjrw/

[13] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1d13gsv/billy_clift_somewhere_in_the_night/

[14] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1d7xsrd/sorry_for_the_bad_quality/

[:1-15] 15.0 ^15.1 https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1e52xfy/some_possible_leads_for_somewhere_in_the_night/

[16] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jB4fNs6few

[17] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoO37IWnY48&t

[18] ttps://kissmar-2019.blogspot.com/2008/02/statement-love-bites-1995-aorhard_29.html

[19] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLtcu-amQZ0

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 |Genre = Pop Rock
 |Search_started = 2020
-|OP = NeonBlue
+|OP = funky_vinyls_records, gymforma
 |Media=Somewhereinthenight.mp3}}
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 == Background and Search ==
-Somewhere In The Night was originally posted on WatZatSong by user gymforma on November 27th, 2020, and gained popularity in 2023.<ref name=":0">https://www.watzatsong.com/en/name-that-tune/682223.html</ref> A slowed sample of the beginning to Giorge Pettus's song "One Time Affair"<ref>https://youtu.be/nZX5Ucz-ms0?t=5</ref> featured at the end of the snippet, suggested that the song was from a mix. This also indicates that Somewhere In The Night was pitch-edited, as confirmed by the fact that in the discovered mix, the track directly before SITN, Something by Lava, was sped up by 15 BPM and pitched F# major, instead of the original E♭ major key.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1bqor6v/possible_somewhere_in_the_night_original_pitch/</ref>
+"Somewhere In The Night" (SITN) is an unidentified pop rong song [https://www.watzatsong.com/en/name-that-tune/682223.html originally posted to WatZatSong] by user gymforma on November 27th, 2020.  On August 28, 2022, gymforma shared a slightly longer [https://mega.nz/file/0lwiyZDQ#BNYEnw7xOqlRHC5trIzIuWKtW2HQeFlp04eVhVJz5nY 33-second recording] on MegaNZ, with filename "request 8.mp3".  He shared that he got the song from a collector who we've now identified as [https://www.youtube.com/@nimzoaorvideos9481 NimzoAOR].
-It's unclear when or how it was discovered, but searchers on Discord eventually connected the snippet to a YouTube channel called NeonBlue80.<sup>'''[This section needs expansion]'''</sup> NeonBlue was accused of knowing the song and artist and purposefully hiding it from searchers, but in a later comment, he clarified that he simply doesn't remember the song title and does not care about the search.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/LostwaveCirclejerk/comments/1dfftw5/neonblue_is_no_longer_my_biggest_opp_confirmed/</ref> NeonBlue claims that he got the song from a blog, possibly [http://kissmar-2019.blogspot.com/ KISSMAR], [https://hardrockaorheaven.blogspot.com/ HardRockAORHeaven] ([https://www.blogger.com/profile/16712049956871620607 CamelBlue]) or Polix Soundtrack.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1dfgn14/possible_sitn_information_find/</ref>
+On June 13, 2024, a collection of 17 mix videos were [https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1df2sw0/somewhere_in_the_night_full_mix_found_with_a/ found] by Floptok, uploaded by a user "funky_vinyls_records" to DailyMotion.  One of those mixes, uploaded on May 23, 2008, contains a longer ~47-second snippet of SITN [https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5j3ua?start=372 starting at timestamp 6:13]. In all, the 17 mixes contain 123 distinct song snippets, of which 120 are identified as of September 20, 2024. The official tracking spreadsheet for funky_vinyls_records' unknowns is [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HuYHgsUIArXVup7DE_OxpckxcquEF84AkhACk8SjhJc/edit?gid=1975757275#gid=1975757275 here], and more information about the remaining unknowns is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-kg1tcHSP4 here].
-On June 13th, 2024, the full original mix created by NeonBlue containing Somewhere In The Night was discovered, titled "Funk speed".<ref>https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5j3ua</ref> It was found on Dailymotion and was uploaded by user funky_vinyls_records.<ref>https://www.dailymotion.com/funky_vinyls_records</ref> Another unidentified song was discovered among the songs in the mix, and the remaining tracks were from various countries, including Italy, Canada, Denmark, Norway, and the United States, dating from 1983 to 1989.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1df2sw0/comment/l8hpdgf/</ref>
+After some research and outreach, we're largely confident in the following reconstructed timeline:
+* funky_vinyls_records uploads a 48-second snippet of SITN to DailyMotion on May 23, 2008, as part of a mix video.
+* A member of the Lyon Funk community, who we've identified, scrapes part of the snippet and shares it with other people, asking about the origin of the song.  This is where the 33-second snippet comes from.
+* NimzoAOR gets the snippet, and shares it with gymforma
+* gymforma posts it to WatZatSong in 2020.
+There has been ongoing confusion that NeonBlue, another member of the Lyon Funk community, is related to the original posting of SITN.  This is now confirmed to be a misunderstanding; specifically NeonBlue is not funky_vinyls_records.
+The search has gained popularity in 2023<ref name=":0">https://www.watzatsong.com/en/name-that-tune/682223.html</ref>, and is now one of the most sought songs in Lostwave.
+== Musical Analysis ==
+A slowed sample of the beginning to Giorge Pettus's song "One Time Affair"<ref>https://youtu.be/nZX5Ucz-ms0?t=5</ref> featured at the end of the snippet, suggesting that the song was from a mix. This also indicated that Somewhere In The Night was pitch-edited, as confirmed by the fact that in the discovered mix, the track directly before SITN, Something by Lava, was sped up by 15 BPM and pitched F# major, instead of the original E♭ major key.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1bqor6v/possible_somewhere_in_the_night_original_pitch/</ref>
 == Leads ==
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 * '''Phyllis Rhodes''': In June 2024, Phyllis Rhodes, former lead singer of the band Saint Tropez, was considered as the singer due to her similar voice.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dan8g4/sitn_lead_phyllis_rhodes/</ref> Reddit user AltariaBoy contacted Rhodes, who initially believed the song was created by AI using her voice.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1daqw1g/phyllis_rhodes_sitn_solved_by_ualtariaboy/</ref> She did, however, suggest that it could be one of her demos that was never released due to legal or contractual issues,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dar9l6/phyllis_rhodes_somewhere_in_the_night_most_likely/</ref> however it was not found and the lead was debunked.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dar9l6/comment/l8xqjrw/</ref>
-* '''Mark Scott''': Suggested due to similar vocals and musical style, as well as the discovery of a collection of his unreleased demos on HardRockAORHeaven, a blog NeonBlue used to frequent.<ref>https://hardrockaorheaven.blogspot.com/2011/03/mark-scott-demos-unreleased-1988.html</ref> Mark Scott confirmed that the song is not composed by him, but he is interested in finding out who sang it.<sup>'''[citation needed]'''</sup>
+* '''Mark Scott''': Suggested due to similar vocals and musical style, as well as the discovery of a collection of his unreleased demos on HardRockAORHeaven.  Mark Scott confirmed that the song is not composed by him.
 * '''Billy Clift - Somewhere In The Night''':<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1d13gsv/billy_clift_somewhere_in_the_night/</ref> Not the same song.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1d7xsrd/sorry_for_the_bad_quality/</ref>
 * '''Cherry Cherry''': Suggested in the WatZatSong thread, debunked by OP.<ref name=":0" />
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 == References ==
-* [https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5j3ua Full Mix]
+* [https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5j3ua?start=372 Dailymotion mix containing SITN]
-* [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K50sdvSP0_61ru7PLyie6XRsZr44zOTjA4kdP7tH9D0/edit?gid=0#gid=0 NeonBlue Mix Spreadsheet]
+* [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HuYHgsUIArXVup7DE_OxpckxcquEF84AkhACk8SjhJc/edit?gid=1975757275#gid=1975757275 funky_vinyls_records Mix Spreadsheet]
-* [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fOdpDi3YdbrVCOLVIj1YBdCPdSMc-JawpkxkjqccYXY/edit Masterlist]
+* [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l-pFovXasiduQbHtaCjdS4ZchjqMrBv_mT4-DYOpZaM/edit?gid=0#gid=0 Leads & copyright spreadsheet]
+* [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fOdpDi3YdbrVCOLVIj1YBdCPdSMc-JawpkxkjqccYXY/edit Leads doc by numerophobe]
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