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|Genre = Pop Rock
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|Search_started = 2020
|Search_started = 2020
|OP = funky_vinyls_records, gymforma
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|Media=Somewhereinthenight.mp3}}
|Media=Somewhereinthenight.mp3}}


'''Somewhere In The Night''' is an unidentified pop rock song from a 2008 Dailymotion mix, circulated by the Lyon Funk music community and posted to WatZatSong in 2020.
'''Somewhere In The Night''' is an unidentified pop rock song sourced from a 2008 Dailymotion mix, circulated by the Lyon Funk music community and posted to WatZatSong in 2020 by user gymforma.


== Background and Search ==
== Background and Search ==
"Somewhere In The Night" (SITN) is an unidentified pop rock song [https://www.watzatsong.com/en/name-that-tune/682223.html originally posted to WatZatSong] by user gymforma on November 27th, 2020.  On August 28, 2022, gymforma shared a slightly longer [https://mega.nz/file/0lwiyZDQ#BNYEnw7xOqlRHC5trIzIuWKtW2HQeFlp04eVhVJz5nY 33-second recording] on MegaNZ, with filename "request 8.mp3". He shared that he got the song from a collector who we've now identified as [https://www.youtube.com/@nimzoaorvideos9481 NimzoAOR].
The song was originally posted to WatZatSong by user gymforma on November 27th, 2020.<ref>https://www.watzatsong.com/en/name-that-tune/682223.html</ref> On August 28th, 2022, gymforma shared a slightly longer 33-second recording on MegaNZ, with the filename "request 8.mp3".<ref>https://mega.nz/file/0lwiyZDQ#BNYEnw7xOqlRHC5trIzIuWKtW2HQeFlp04eVhVJz5nY</ref> He stated that he got the song from a collector who has been identified as [https://www.youtube.com/@nimzoaorvideos9481 NimzoAOR].<sup>'''[how?]'''</sup>


On June 13, 2024, a collection of 17 mix videos were [https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1df2sw0/somewhere_in_the_night_full_mix_found_with_a/ found] by Floptok, uploaded by a user "funky_vinyls_records" to DailyMotion.  One of those mixes, uploaded on May 23, 2008, contains a longer ~47-second snippet of SITN [https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5j3ua?start=372 starting at timestamp 6:13]. In all, the 17 mixes contain 123 distinct song snippets, of which 120 are identified as of September 20, 2024. The official tracking spreadsheet for funky_vinyls_records' unknowns is [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HuYHgsUIArXVup7DE_OxpckxcquEF84AkhACk8SjhJc/edit?gid=1975757275#gid=1975757275 here], and more information about the remaining unknowns is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-kg1tcHSP4 here].
On June 13th, 2024, Discord user Floptok discovered a mix titled "Funk Speed",<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1df2sw0/somewhere_in_the_night_full_mix_found_with_a/</ref> uploaded by DailyMotion user "funky_vinyls_records" on May 23rd, 2008, which contains a longer ~47-second snippet of the song.<ref>https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5j3ua?start=372</ref> Another unidentified song was discovered among the songs in the mix, known as "You're On Your Own," and the remaining tracks were from various countries, including Italy, Canada, Denmark, Norway, and the United States, dating from 1983 to 1989.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1df2sw0/comment/l8hpdgf/</ref> In total, the 17 mixes contain 123 distinct song snippets, 121 of which are identified as of September 20th, 2024.<ref>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HuYHgsUIArXVup7DE_OxpckxcquEF84AkhACk8SjhJc/edit?gid=1975757275#gid=1975757275</ref>


After some research and outreach, we're largely confident in the following reconstructed timeline:
Early in the search, there was some confusion about whether NeonBlue80, a member of the Lyon Funk community, is related to the original post, with some accusing him of knowing the song and artist and purposefully hiding it from searchers. This is now confirmed to be a misunderstanding; specifically that NeonBlue is not funky_vinyls_records.<ref name=":2">https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1fl36hj/neonblue_is_a_nice_guy_hes_not_the_op_of_sitn_and/</ref>


* funky_vinyls_records uploads a 48-second snippet of SITN to DailyMotion on May 23, 2008, as part of a mix video.
NeonBlue has previously claimed that the song was likely from a blog, possibly [http://kissmar-2019.blogspot.com/ KISSMAR], [https://hardrockaorheaven.blogspot.com/ HardRockAORHeaven] (CamelBlue) or Polix Soundtrack,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1dfgn14/possible_sitn_information_find/</ref> but this has been debunked by a former Lyon Funk community member, who has been identified as the original source of the 33-second snippet clipped from the "Funk Speed" mix. The identity of "funky_vinyls_records" is still unknown.<ref name=":2" />
* A member of the Lyon Funk community, who we've identified, scrapes part of the snippet and shares it with other people, asking about the origin of the song.  This is where the 33-second snippet comes from.
* NimzoAOR gets the snippet, and shares it with gymforma
* gymforma posts it to WatZatSong in 2020.


There has been ongoing confusion that NeonBlue, another member of the Lyon Funk community, is related to the original posting of SITN.  This is now confirmed to be a misunderstanding; specifically NeonBlue is not funky_vinyls_records.
The search gained popularity in 2023,<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8k-cwcRW_o</ref> and is now one of the most sought after songs in Lostwave.
 
The search gained popularity in 2023<ref name=":0">https://www.watzatsong.com/en/name-that-tune/682223.html</ref>, and is now one of the most sought songs in Lostwave.


== Musical Analysis ==
== Musical Analysis ==
A slowed sample of the beginning to Giorge Pettus's song "One Time Affair"<ref>https://youtu.be/nZX5Ucz-ms0?t=5</ref> featured at the end of the snippet, suggesting that the song was from a mix. This also indicated that Somewhere In The Night was pitch-edited, as confirmed by the fact that in the discovered mix, the track directly before SITN, Something by Lava, was sped up by 15 BPM and pitched F# major, instead of the original E♭ major key.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1bqor6v/possible_somewhere_in_the_night_original_pitch/</ref>
A slowed sample of the beginning to Giorge Pettus's song "One Time Affair" featured at the end of the snippet,<ref>https://youtu.be/nZX5Ucz-ms0?t=5</ref> originally suggested to searchers that the song was from a mix. This also indicated that Somewhere In The Night was pitch-edited, as confirmed by the fact that in the discovered mix, the track directly before SITN, Something by Lava, was sped up by 15 BPM and pitched F# major, instead of the original E♭ major key.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1bqor6v/possible_somewhere_in_the_night_original_pitch/</ref>


== Leads ==
== Leads ==
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* '''Phyllis Rhodes''': In June 2024, Phyllis Rhodes, former lead singer of the band Saint Tropez, was considered as the singer due to her similar voice.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dan8g4/sitn_lead_phyllis_rhodes/</ref> Reddit user AltariaBoy contacted Rhodes, who initially believed the song was created by AI using her voice.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1daqw1g/phyllis_rhodes_sitn_solved_by_ualtariaboy/</ref> She did, however, suggest that it could be one of her demos that was never released due to legal or contractual issues,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dar9l6/phyllis_rhodes_somewhere_in_the_night_most_likely/</ref> however it was not found and the lead was debunked.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dar9l6/comment/l8xqjrw/</ref>
* '''Phyllis Rhodes''': In June 2024, Phyllis Rhodes, former lead singer of the band Saint Tropez, was considered as the singer due to her similar voice.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dan8g4/sitn_lead_phyllis_rhodes/</ref> Reddit user AltariaBoy contacted Rhodes, who initially believed the song was created by AI using her voice.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1daqw1g/phyllis_rhodes_sitn_solved_by_ualtariaboy/</ref> She did, however, suggest that it could be one of her demos that was never released due to legal or contractual issues,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dar9l6/phyllis_rhodes_somewhere_in_the_night_most_likely/</ref> however it was not found and the lead was debunked.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dar9l6/comment/l8xqjrw/</ref>
* '''Mark Scott''': Suggested due to similar vocals and musical style, as well as the discovery of a collection of his unreleased demos on HardRockAORHeaven. Mark Scott confirmed that the song is not composed by him.
* '''Mark Scott''': Suggested due to similar vocals and musical style, as well as the discovery of a collection of his unreleased demos on HardRockAORHeaven. Mark Scott confirmed that the song is not composed by him.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnFOfDRantQ</ref>
* '''Billy Clift - Somewhere In The Night''':<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1d13gsv/billy_clift_somewhere_in_the_night/</ref> Not the same song.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1d7xsrd/sorry_for_the_bad_quality/</ref>
* '''Billy Clift - Somewhere In The Night''':<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1d13gsv/billy_clift_somewhere_in_the_night/</ref> Not the same song.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1d7xsrd/sorry_for_the_bad_quality/</ref>
* '''Cherry Cherry''': Suggested in the WatZatSong thread, debunked by OP.<ref name=":0" />  
* '''Cherry Cherry''': Suggested in the WatZatSong thread, debunked by OP.<ref name=":0">https://www.watzatsong.com/en/name-that-tune/682223.html</ref>
* '''Paulo Gonzo - Somewhere In the Night''':<ref name=":1">https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1e52xfy/some_possible_leads_for_somewhere_in_the_night/</ref> Not the same song.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jB4fNs6few</ref>  
* '''Paulo Gonzo - Somewhere In the Night''':<ref name=":1">https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1e52xfy/some_possible_leads_for_somewhere_in_the_night/</ref> Not the same song.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jB4fNs6few</ref>  
* '''Richard Kerr - Somewhere in the Night''':<ref name=":1" /> Not the same song.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoO37IWnY48&t</ref>  
* '''Richard Kerr - Somewhere in the Night''':<ref name=":1" /> Not the same song.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoO37IWnY48&t</ref>  

Revision as of 14:05, 20 September 2024

ⓘ This lostwave is classified as unsolved.

Somewhere In The Night
Alternative name(s) Love's Gonna Find You
Genre Pop Rock
Year 1980s
Original poster funky_vinyls_records
Search started 2020
File:Somewhereinthenight.mp3

Somewhere In The Night is an unidentified pop rock song sourced from a 2008 Dailymotion mix, circulated by the Lyon Funk music community and posted to WatZatSong in 2020 by user gymforma.

Background and Search

The song was originally posted to WatZatSong by user gymforma on November 27th, 2020.[1] On August 28th, 2022, gymforma shared a slightly longer 33-second recording on MegaNZ, with the filename "request 8.mp3".[2] He stated that he got the song from a collector who has been identified as NimzoAOR.[how?]

On June 13th, 2024, Discord user Floptok discovered a mix titled "Funk Speed",[3] uploaded by DailyMotion user "funky_vinyls_records" on May 23rd, 2008, which contains a longer ~47-second snippet of the song.[4] Another unidentified song was discovered among the songs in the mix, known as "You're On Your Own," and the remaining tracks were from various countries, including Italy, Canada, Denmark, Norway, and the United States, dating from 1983 to 1989.[5] In total, the 17 mixes contain 123 distinct song snippets, 121 of which are identified as of September 20th, 2024.[6]

Early in the search, there was some confusion about whether NeonBlue80, a member of the Lyon Funk community, is related to the original post, with some accusing him of knowing the song and artist and purposefully hiding it from searchers. This is now confirmed to be a misunderstanding; specifically that NeonBlue is not funky_vinyls_records.[7]

NeonBlue has previously claimed that the song was likely from a blog, possibly KISSMAR, HardRockAORHeaven (CamelBlue) or Polix Soundtrack,[8] but this has been debunked by a former Lyon Funk community member, who has been identified as the original source of the 33-second snippet clipped from the "Funk Speed" mix. The identity of "funky_vinyls_records" is still unknown.[7]

The search gained popularity in 2023,[9] and is now one of the most sought after songs in Lostwave.

Musical Analysis

A slowed sample of the beginning to Giorge Pettus's song "One Time Affair" featured at the end of the snippet,[10] originally suggested to searchers that the song was from a mix. This also indicated that Somewhere In The Night was pitch-edited, as confirmed by the fact that in the discovered mix, the track directly before SITN, Something by Lava, was sped up by 15 BPM and pitched F# major, instead of the original E♭ major key.[11]

Leads

Possible

  • Alannah Myles: Suggested due to similar vocals and musical style.[12]
  • Jan Parker Stevens: Suggested due to similar vocals and musical style.[13]
  • Tom Harriman: Suggested due to similar vocals and music style.[14]
  • Steve Kipner - Slide Back Lucy - A Demo Retrospective (1982-95): A compilation album of unreleased demos by rock musician Steve Kipner, investigated because three songs are sung by different singers, and one of the songs on this album, Don't Call It Love, was another lost song that was discovered by NeonBlue.[15][16]

Debunked

  • Phyllis Rhodes: In June 2024, Phyllis Rhodes, former lead singer of the band Saint Tropez, was considered as the singer due to her similar voice.[17] Reddit user AltariaBoy contacted Rhodes, who initially believed the song was created by AI using her voice.[18] She did, however, suggest that it could be one of her demos that was never released due to legal or contractual issues,[19] however it was not found and the lead was debunked.[20]
  • Mark Scott: Suggested due to similar vocals and musical style, as well as the discovery of a collection of his unreleased demos on HardRockAORHeaven. Mark Scott confirmed that the song is not composed by him.[21]
  • Billy Clift - Somewhere In The Night:[22] Not the same song.[23]
  • Cherry Cherry: Suggested in the WatZatSong thread, debunked by OP.[24]
  • Paulo Gonzo - Somewhere In the Night:[25] Not the same song.[26]
  • Richard Kerr - Somewhere in the Night:[25] Not the same song.[27]
  • Statement - Somewhere In The Night:[28] Not the same song.[29]

Lyrics

References

  1. ↑ https://www.watzatsong.com/en/name-that-tune/682223.html
  2. ↑ https://mega.nz/file/0lwiyZDQ#BNYEnw7xOqlRHC5trIzIuWKtW2HQeFlp04eVhVJz5nY
  3. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1df2sw0/somewhere_in_the_night_full_mix_found_with_a/
  4. ↑ https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5j3ua?start=372
  5. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1df2sw0/comment/l8hpdgf/
  6. ↑ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HuYHgsUIArXVup7DE_OxpckxcquEF84AkhACk8SjhJc/edit?gid=1975757275#gid=1975757275
  7. ↑ 7.0 7.1 https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1fl36hj/neonblue_is_a_nice_guy_hes_not_the_op_of_sitn_and/
  8. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1dfgn14/possible_sitn_information_find/
  9. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8k-cwcRW_o
  10. ↑ https://youtu.be/nZX5Ucz-ms0?t=5
  11. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1bqor6v/possible_somewhere_in_the_night_original_pitch/
  12. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1cq7pcl/theory_alannah_myles_demo_unreleased_song/
  13. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sp878Yjsfk
  14. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbHiY-DvMg0
  15. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/DreamingNight/comments/1edphcd/has_anyone_looked_into_slide_back_lucy/
  16. ↑ https://picclick.com/Steve-Kipner-Demos-CD-RARE-Westcoast-AOR-Chicago-164675311942.html
  17. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dan8g4/sitn_lead_phyllis_rhodes/
  18. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1daqw1g/phyllis_rhodes_sitn_solved_by_ualtariaboy/
  19. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dar9l6/phyllis_rhodes_somewhere_in_the_night_most_likely/
  20. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1dar9l6/comment/l8xqjrw/
  21. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnFOfDRantQ
  22. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1d13gsv/billy_clift_somewhere_in_the_night/
  23. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Somewhereinthenight/comments/1d7xsrd/sorry_for_the_bad_quality/
  24. ↑ https://www.watzatsong.com/en/name-that-tune/682223.html
  25. ↑ 25.0 25.1 https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1e52xfy/some_possible_leads_for_somewhere_in_the_night/
  26. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jB4fNs6few
  27. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoO37IWnY48&t
  28. ↑ https://kissmar-2019.blogspot.com/2008/02/statement-love-bites-1995-aorhard_29.html
  29. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLtcu-amQZ0
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