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'''Treadmill of Time ('''also known as '''"Slow Down" and "Not Sure Of It All Anymore" )''' is a mysterious synthpop song misattributed to Depeche Mode under the name "Treadmill of Fire", with the false claim that it was a 1981 demo by keyboardist Alan Wilder. On September 20th, Tim Addy would provide to Sam a track list for an album by Memorybank from 1987 called “Key To The Door”, which listed songs called Treadmill Of Time, Here To Have Fun, The High Ridge, Chart Rundown, The Golden Age, Suburban Empires, and Photoraphique.
'''Treadmill of Time''' (also known as '''"Slow Down"''' and '''"Not Sure Of It All Anymore"''') is a mysterious synthpop song misattributed to Depeche Mode under the name "Treadmill of Fire", with the false claim that it was a 1981 demo by keyboardist Alan Wilder.  


== Background ==
== Background ==
On April 25th, 2002, the song was first mentioned on the internet by a Slovakian Depeche Mode fansite, depechemode-sk.<ref>https://www-depechemode-sk.translate.goog/magazin/clanok/zaujimavosti-o-depeche-mode-1-cast?_x_tr_sl=sk&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc</ref> It was labelled a fake song because it appeared on a 2002 bootleg Depeche Mode album titled "On Solo Ways...".<ref>https://forum.klix.ba/muzika-f19/depeche-mode-t59965.html</ref>
The song was first mentioned on the internet on April 25th, 2002 on depechemode-sk, a Slovakian Depeche Mode fan site.<ref>https://www-depechemode-sk.translate.goog/magazin/clanok/zaujimavosti-o-depeche-mode-1-cast?_x_tr_sl=sk&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc</ref> It was labelled as a fake song because it appeared on a 2002 bootleg Depeche Mode album called "On Solo Ways...".<ref>https://forum.klix.ba/muzika-f19/depeche-mode-t59965.html</ref>


On September 8th, 2010, YouTube user CharlieMillesManson first uploaded the song to YouTube with the false title "Depeche Mode - Treadmill Of Fire (Demo Version)", along with numerous other rare Depeche Mode songs.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrOdQFm_ZRI</ref>
On September 8th, 2010, YouTube user CharlieMillesManson reuploaded the song to YouTube under the false title "Depeche Mode - Treadmill Of Fire (Demo Version)", along with numerous other rare Depeche Mode songs.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrOdQFm_ZRI</ref>


On October 15th, 2019, the song was posted to spiritofradio.ca, claiming that it, along with two other songs from the bootleg album, Chart Rundown and Here to Have Fun, were originally sourced from a radio broadcast from the mid-1980s or early 1990s, with the DJ or host claiming Alan Wilder as the creator.<ref>https://spiritofradio.ca/SongComments.asp?SongID=3190</ref> The broadcast also included "Disco Hell," an actual early track from Wilder's band,<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1FBLAfawIQ</ref> "Daphne and the Tenderspots." The station and broadcaster remain unknown.
On October 15th, 2019, the song was posted to spiritofradio.ca, claiming that it, along with two other songs from the bootleg album, Chart Rundown and Here to Have Fun, were originally sourced from a radio broadcast from the mid-1980s or early 1990s, with the DJ or host claiming Alan Wilder as the creator.<ref>https://spiritofradio.ca/SongComments.asp?SongID=3190</ref> The broadcast also included "Disco Hell," an actual early track from Wilder's band,<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1FBLAfawIQ</ref> "Daphne and the Tenderspots." The station and broadcaster remain unknown.
On September 20th, 2024 Tim Addy would provide to Sam a track list for an album by Memorybank from 1987 called “Key To The Door”, which listed songs called Treadmill Of Time, Here To Have Fun, The High Ridge, Chart Rundown, The Golden Age, Suburban Empires, and Photoraphique.


== Leads ==
== Leads ==
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=== Possible ===
=== Possible ===


* '''Memorybank''': A recent lead has raised the possibility of an unknown band known as "Memorybank" or "Memorial" being the creators of the song. This started when someone using the YouTube handle "Nik Lawrence" left a now-deleted comment claiming to know the band. He told the search team that he recognized the group as "Memorial" and that "T Addy" and "J Lewis" of Southampton were most likely the ones who recorded it in 1988.<ref name=":0">https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18lu1fk/treadmill_of_time_fire_consolidated_info/</ref> In February 2023, someone named Tim Addy was contacted and claimed to be involved, but used a different name for the band. calling it "Memorybank".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Ftreadmill-of-time-fire-consolidated-info-v0-ha4yen83q67c1.png%3Fwidth%3D1080%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D223c6fbafe6865c188054c01cd86da9df8e8c022</ref> The person who claims to be Tim Addy or Nik Lawrence has not provided any additional evidence proving that Memorybank created the song, and no proof that the band existed has been discovered.<ref name=":0" /> However, a person named Nik Lawrence from Hampshire, England, was proven to exist from a Depeche Mode fan magazine from 1989.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18lu1fk/comment/ke0rdzx/</ref><ref>https://dmlive.wiki/wiki/BONG_6</ref>  
* '''Memorybank''': An unknown band known as "Memorybank" or "Memorial" are likely the creators of the song. This lead started when YouTube user "Nik Lawrence" left a now-deleted comment claiming that he recognized the group as "Memorial" and that "T Addy" and "J Lewis" of Southampton were most likely the ones who recorded it in 1988.<ref name=":0">https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18lu1fk/treadmill_of_time_fire_consolidated_info/</ref> In February 2023, someone named Tim Addy was contacted and claimed to be involved, but used a different name for the band, calling it "Memorybank".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Ftreadmill-of-time-fire-consolidated-info-v0-ha4yen83q67c1.png%3Fwidth%3D1080%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D223c6fbafe6865c188054c01cd86da9df8e8c022</ref> On September 20th, 2024, Tim Addy would provide Reddit user gksvevo with a tracklist for Memorybank's 1987 album "Key To The Door", which included the lost songs Treadmill Of Time, Here To Have Fun and Chart Rundown as well as previously unknown songs The High Ridge, The Golden Age, Suburban Empires, and Photographique.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1flj38i/big_memorybank_discovery/</ref>
 
* '''Deca Dance''': Australian band investigated due to similar style and vocals<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1aypp3w/posible_lead_to_treadmille_of_time_decadance/?rdt=45597</ref>  
* '''Deca Dance''': Australian band investigated due to similar style and vocals<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1aypp3w/posible_lead_to_treadmille_of_time_decadance/?rdt=45597</ref>  
* '''Minimal Compact''': Israeli band investigated after another fake Alan Wilder song, "Postulate," which appeared on the On Solo Ways... outfake album,<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARju6V9qyMc</ref> was revealed to be an alternate version of the Minimal Compact song Clock Bird.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXF_BzS2B8s</ref>
* '''Minimal Compact''': Israeli band investigated after another fake Alan Wilder song, "Postulate," which appeared on the On Solo Ways... outfake album,<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARju6V9qyMc</ref> was revealed to be an alternate version of the Minimal Compact song Clock Bird.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXF_BzS2B8s</ref>

Revision as of 13:11, 22 September 2024

ⓘ This lostwave is classified as nearly solved.

Treadmill Of Time
Genre Synthpop/Post-Punk
Length 4.39
Year 1987
Status Nearly Solved
Original poster CharlieMillesManson
Search started 2002
File:Treadmilloftime.mp3

Treadmill of Time (also known as "Slow Down" and "Not Sure Of It All Anymore") is a mysterious synthpop song misattributed to Depeche Mode under the name "Treadmill of Fire", with the false claim that it was a 1981 demo by keyboardist Alan Wilder.

Background

The song was first mentioned on the internet on April 25th, 2002 on depechemode-sk, a Slovakian Depeche Mode fan site.[1] It was labelled as a fake song because it appeared on a 2002 bootleg Depeche Mode album called "On Solo Ways...".[2]

On September 8th, 2010, YouTube user CharlieMillesManson reuploaded the song to YouTube under the false title "Depeche Mode - Treadmill Of Fire (Demo Version)", along with numerous other rare Depeche Mode songs.[3]

On October 15th, 2019, the song was posted to spiritofradio.ca, claiming that it, along with two other songs from the bootleg album, Chart Rundown and Here to Have Fun, were originally sourced from a radio broadcast from the mid-1980s or early 1990s, with the DJ or host claiming Alan Wilder as the creator.[4] The broadcast also included "Disco Hell," an actual early track from Wilder's band,[5] "Daphne and the Tenderspots." The station and broadcaster remain unknown.

Leads

Possible

  • Memorybank: An unknown band known as "Memorybank" or "Memorial" are likely the creators of the song. This lead started when YouTube user "Nik Lawrence" left a now-deleted comment claiming that he recognized the group as "Memorial" and that "T Addy" and "J Lewis" of Southampton were most likely the ones who recorded it in 1988.[6] In February 2023, someone named Tim Addy was contacted and claimed to be involved, but used a different name for the band, calling it "Memorybank".[7] On September 20th, 2024, Tim Addy would provide Reddit user gksvevo with a tracklist for Memorybank's 1987 album "Key To The Door", which included the lost songs Treadmill Of Time, Here To Have Fun and Chart Rundown as well as previously unknown songs The High Ridge, The Golden Age, Suburban Empires, and Photographique.[8]
  • Deca Dance: Australian band investigated due to similar style and vocals[9]
  • Minimal Compact: Israeli band investigated after another fake Alan Wilder song, "Postulate," which appeared on the On Solo Ways... outfake album,[10] was revealed to be an alternate version of the Minimal Compact song Clock Bird.[11]
  • The Hitmen: British band featuring Alan Wilder on keyboards; some believe the lead singer Ben Watkins' voice is similar to the lost song.[12]

Debunked

  • Voyagers: Turkish band investigated due to similar style and vocals, confirmed to have not made the song.[13][14]

Lyrics

References