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'''The Fallen King''' or '''Fall of the King''' is an unknown song taped off Dallas Texas radio station, '''Z-Rock''', in the mid-to-late 80s by '''Sled1025''' on the HMR Forums and '''Armador Thrash''' on twitter.  
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== Origins ==
|Name = The Fall Of The King
On September 3rd 2009, user Sled1025 of the HMR forums, a hub for conversations about metal bands, posted a query about a song taped from the Dallas based rock and metal station, Z-Rock. Sled1025 said that all the songs on the tape were released in 1988 or earlier. They transcribed the lyrics and provided an MP3 file of the track. The search went quiet after this.
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== Revived Search ==
|Alt_name = Fallen King, King is Fallen
On December 3rd 2020, Armador Thrash tweeted asking for help with finding an unknown metal song recorded from Z-Rock in 1987. They tagged the user Metalattackers in hopes that they would spread it and other enthusiasts would remember the song. A day later, discussion about the song moved to back to the HMR Forums, where it was suggested that the lyrics could be searched on the Metal Archives. When this proved fruitless, the song was uploaded to Youtube. User Poserkiller suggested the song could be "Fall of the King" by Redd Barron, giving the song its placeholder name. On the 15th of December, the Youtube upload was shared to the Cult Metal Classics Facebook page.
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|Genre = Power Metal
 
|Year = 1987-1989
Around 2021, the song was submitted to Power Metal Station SIRIUSXM and it was speculated the DJ that played the song on Z-Rock was Pat Dawsey. A post was made about the song on r/lostwave which created a lot of community speculation.
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== Debunked or Partial Leads ==
|Search_started = 2009
 
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'''The Fall Of The King ('''also known as '''"The Fallen King'''" or '''"The King Has Fallen"''') is an unknown song taped off Dallas Texas radio station, '''Z-Rock''', in the mid-to-late 80s by '''Sled1025''' on the Encyclopaedia Metallum forums and '''Armador Thrash''' on Twitter.  
Redd Barron was one of the first leads to be raised, as they had a song titled "Fall of the King" which matched key lyrics in the song, however, fans of the band said this was purely a coicidence and Redd Barron uploaded a version of their song in 2020 which proved that the two songs were different.  
 
== Background ==
 
On September 3rd, 2009, user Sled1025 from the Encyclopaedia Metallum forums, a website for discussions about metal bands, posted in a thread dedicated to song identification a recording from Dallas-based rock and metal station Z-Rock.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_Rock</ref> Sled1025 claimed that all of the songs on the tape were released in 1988 or earlier, transcribed the lyrics and provided an MP3 version of the track.<ref>https://forum.metal-archives.com/viewtopic.php?p=1342956#p1342956</ref>
Haven was a band discussed in the 2020 HMR Forums posts that was also quickly debunked. Another group, Z-Rose was brought up as a possible lead, however by 2021, this had been debunked by reaching out to members of the band.  
 
On December 3rd, 2020, Twitter user Armador Thrash asked for help in finding an unknown metal song recorded from Z-Rock in 1987.<ref>https://x.com/ArmadorThrash99/status/1336103548594098183</ref> A day later, the discussion about the song continued on the Heavy Metal Rarities Forums, where it was suggested that the lyrics could be found in the Metal Archives. When this proved unsuccessful, the song was uploaded to YouTube.<ref>https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084#gsc.tab=0</ref> User Poserkiller suggested that the song be called "Fall of the King" by Redd Barron, giving the song its placeholder name.<ref>https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084&sid=3d6e4d781d251ae6c4eda10968dd4f79#p211133</ref>
 
Fall of the King is a hard lostwave to reaserch confirmed information about as many leads have been raised without follow up and a lot of bands cannot be contacted or haven't been contacted, so most threads are left dangling. For example, the band Blackmayne was raised as a possibility but could not be contacted on Facebook, leading to the theory only being debunked by circumstantial evidence rather than rebuttal.
In late 2020, Armador Thrash submitted the song to Ian Christe's ROOTS metal history show on SiriusXM Liquid Metal, seeking help in identifying the band.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opaL6a-OMKw</ref>
 
 
On December 14th, 2020, a post about the song was made on r/lostwave, which initially attracted the interest of the lostwave community.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/kcsui4/unknown_80s_power_metal_band/</ref>
Currently a Californian band called Draggone, formally named Zion, is being investigated, with a song called "Glory to the King" from 1987 being attributed to them.
 
== Leads ==
== Outside Links: ==
The original tweet: https://twitter.com/ArmadorThrash99/status/1334615162830118916
=== Possible ===
 
The Forum Posts:
* '''Zion/Draggone''':  A Californian band, which is being investigated because a song called "Glory to the King" from 1987 is attributed to them.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1csvas8/another_possible_but_unlikely_lead/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1b3jz0w/theory_for_lost_song_fall_of_the_king_aka_the/</ref>
 
https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084#gsc.tab=0
=== Debunked ===
 
The r/lostwave Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/kcsui4/unknown_80s_power_metal_band/
* '''Redd Barron''': Was one of the first leads to be raised, as they had a song titled "Fall of the King" which matched lyrics in the song, however, fans of the band said this was purely a coincidence and Redd Barron uploaded a version of their song in 2020 which proved that the two songs were different.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEP7SCX5JXs</ref>
 
* '''Haven:''' A band discussed in the 2020 HMR Forums posts that was also quickly debunked.<ref>https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084#p212081</ref>
* '''Baron Steele'''<ref>https://files.catbox.moe/hwiwg6.PNG</ref>
* '''Bernard E. Cavazos'''<ref>https://files.catbox.moe/dnvmz7.PNG</ref>
* '''Kinetic Dissent'''<ref>https://files.catbox.moe/4liuu4.jpg</ref>
* '''Conquest'''<ref>https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084&start=60#p252062</ref>
* '''Z'Rose'''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1cih0uk/finding_zrose_to_rule_them_out_once_and_for_all/</ref>
* '''Talon'''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1d3krdy/all_the_possible_leads_so_far/</ref>
* '''Blackmayne'''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1cgw96k/comment/l2svejm/</ref>
* '''Sentinel'''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1d3krdy/all_the_possible_leads_so_far/</ref>
* '''Pathfinder''': A Canadian band who only released a demo in 1985,<ref>https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Pathfinder/Demo_1985/865343</ref> confirmed to have not made the song.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1e2z7mz/pathfinder_didnt_make_the_song_the_singer_is_not/</ref>
* '''Christopher Janata''': A 1983 song titled "Fallen King" found in a Cocatalog entry,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18fucxn/contacting_christopher_c_janata_for_the/</ref> confirmed to have not made the song.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1eb8fs1/christopher_c_janata_is_debunked</ref>
* '''Pat Dawsey''': Possible Z-Rock DJ who originally played the song on the radio,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/kcsui4/comment/gfuf4c7/</ref> does not remember the song.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1era3oe/patrick_dawsey_doesnt_remember_our_song/</ref>
== Lyrics ==
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|'''Presumed Lyrics'''
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|'''(Verse 1)'''
The sky is filled with ash and smoke
The towers burn; the walls, they crumble
The bodies lie about the fields
No one is left to win the battle
'''(Pre-Chorus)'''
The people can’t believe their eyes
The king has fallen, see him die
A time of mystery, a time of death
The evil one’s promise has been kept
'''(Chorus)'''
The fall, the fall of the king
The fall, the fall of the king
'''(Verse 2)'''
The night sky is filled with fire
See the king on his royal pyre
Fools, to think that he would win
Against such evil, against such sin
'''(Pre-Chorus)'''
The people can’t believe their eyes
The king has fallen, see him die
A time of mystery, a time of death
The evil one’s promise has been kept
'''(Chorus)'''
The fall, the fall of the king
The fall, the fall of the king
'''(Guitar Solo)'''
'''(Verse 3)'''
The king’s time has come to pass
The wicked one has come at last
A time of fear, a time of pain
Cannot escape the evil one’s reign
'''(Pre-Chorus)'''
The people can’t believe their eyes
The king has fallen, see him die
A time of mystery, a time of death
The evil one’s promise has been kept
'''(Chorus)'''
The fall, the fall of the king
The fall, the fall of the king
The fall, the fall of the king
The fall, the fall of the king
|}
==Resources==
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Latest revision as of 18:17, 31 October 2024

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The Fall Of The King
Alternative name(s) Fallen King, King is Fallen
Language English
Genre Power Metal
Year 1987-1989
Status Almost full version available
Original poster sled1025
Search started 2009
File:TheFallenKing.mp3

The Fall Of The King (also known as "The Fallen King" or "The King Has Fallen") is an unknown song taped off Dallas Texas radio station, Z-Rock, in the mid-to-late 80s by Sled1025 on the Encyclopaedia Metallum forums and Armador Thrash on Twitter.

Background[edit | edit source]

On September 3rd, 2009, user Sled1025 from the Encyclopaedia Metallum forums, a website for discussions about metal bands, posted in a thread dedicated to song identification a recording from Dallas-based rock and metal station Z-Rock.[1] Sled1025 claimed that all of the songs on the tape were released in 1988 or earlier, transcribed the lyrics and provided an MP3 version of the track.[2]

On December 3rd, 2020, Twitter user Armador Thrash asked for help in finding an unknown metal song recorded from Z-Rock in 1987.[3] A day later, the discussion about the song continued on the Heavy Metal Rarities Forums, where it was suggested that the lyrics could be found in the Metal Archives. When this proved unsuccessful, the song was uploaded to YouTube.[4] User Poserkiller suggested that the song be called "Fall of the King" by Redd Barron, giving the song its placeholder name.[5]

In late 2020, Armador Thrash submitted the song to Ian Christe's ROOTS metal history show on SiriusXM Liquid Metal, seeking help in identifying the band.[6]

On December 14th, 2020, a post about the song was made on r/lostwave, which initially attracted the interest of the lostwave community.[7]

Leads[edit | edit source]

Possible[edit | edit source]

  • Zion/Draggone: A Californian band, which is being investigated because a song called "Glory to the King" from 1987 is attributed to them.[8][9]

Debunked[edit | edit source]

  • Redd Barron: Was one of the first leads to be raised, as they had a song titled "Fall of the King" which matched lyrics in the song, however, fans of the band said this was purely a coincidence and Redd Barron uploaded a version of their song in 2020 which proved that the two songs were different.[10]
  • Haven: A band discussed in the 2020 HMR Forums posts that was also quickly debunked.[11]
  • Baron Steele[12]
  • Bernard E. Cavazos[13]
  • Kinetic Dissent[14]
  • Conquest[15]
  • Z'Rose[16]
  • Talon[17]
  • Blackmayne[18]
  • Sentinel[19]
  • Pathfinder: A Canadian band who only released a demo in 1985,[20] confirmed to have not made the song.[21]
  • Christopher Janata: A 1983 song titled "Fallen King" found in a Cocatalog entry,[22] confirmed to have not made the song.[23]
  • Pat Dawsey: Possible Z-Rock DJ who originally played the song on the radio,[24] does not remember the song.[25]

Lyrics[edit | edit source]

Resources[edit | edit source]

  1. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_Rock
  2. ↑ https://forum.metal-archives.com/viewtopic.php?p=1342956#p1342956
  3. ↑ https://x.com/ArmadorThrash99/status/1336103548594098183
  4. ↑ https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084#gsc.tab=0
  5. ↑ https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084&sid=3d6e4d781d251ae6c4eda10968dd4f79#p211133
  6. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opaL6a-OMKw
  7. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/kcsui4/unknown_80s_power_metal_band/
  8. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1csvas8/another_possible_but_unlikely_lead/
  9. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1b3jz0w/theory_for_lost_song_fall_of_the_king_aka_the/
  10. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEP7SCX5JXs
  11. ↑ https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084#p212081
  12. ↑ https://files.catbox.moe/hwiwg6.PNG
  13. ↑ https://files.catbox.moe/dnvmz7.PNG
  14. ↑ https://files.catbox.moe/4liuu4.jpg
  15. ↑ https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=45084&start=60#p252062
  16. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1cih0uk/finding_zrose_to_rule_them_out_once_and_for_all/
  17. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1d3krdy/all_the_possible_leads_so_far/
  18. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1cgw96k/comment/l2svejm/
  19. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1d3krdy/all_the_possible_leads_so_far/
  20. ↑ https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Pathfinder/Demo_1985/865343
  21. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1e2z7mz/pathfinder_didnt_make_the_song_the_singer_is_not/
  22. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18fucxn/contacting_christopher_c_janata_for_the/
  23. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1eb8fs1/christopher_c_janata_is_debunked
  24. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/kcsui4/comment/gfuf4c7/
  25. ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/thefalloftheking/comments/1era3oe/patrick_dawsey_doesnt_remember_our_song/
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