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'''CIA''' is an unknown | '''CIA (also known as "Are You Coming Home", "This Winter" or "Season At The CIA")''' is an unknown post-punk song uploaded to YouTube in 2020 by DJFormaldehyde. | ||
==Origins and Search== | ==Origins and Search== | ||
On February 21st, 2020, user '''datafreq''' first uploaded the song to the New Wave Outpost forums, sourced from a cassette tape recorded in Canada in 1984.<ref>https://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=42844</ref> | |||
The search for CIA gained traction in 2021, with the song making its way to the | '''DJFormaldehyde''' posted CIA to YouTube and the New Wave Outpost forums on July 20, 2020.<ref>https://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=43033</ref> The song was discovered on a tape made by a friend of DJFormaldehyde that included songs recorded from CFNY-FM Spirit of Radio,<ref>https://spiritofradio.ca/SongSearchAdd.asp</ref> a Canadian radio station known at the time for playing new wave, electronic, and alternative music.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q46N3IYg0Y</ref> The song was likely not recorded before July 1984 because the song "You Think You're A Man" by American performance artist Divine, which was released in July 1984, was the oldest song on the tape.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q46N3IYg0Y&lc=Ugy8fLb1rOtbRp6ihmt4AaABAg.9eBIl25Qaqt9eE84dacDLB</ref> | ||
The search for CIA gained traction in November 2021, with the song making its way to the lostwave subreddit and being reuploaded multiple times that year.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/r0tr1t/cia_unknown_postpunk_song_recorded_in_canada/</ref> This was also the year that Alan Cross, who was a radio broadcaster at CFNY from 1986 onwards, uploaded the song to his website, broadening the search.<ref>https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com/interested-in-solving-some-musical-mysteries-try-to-identify-these-songs/</ref> | |||
It is assumed that CIA was aired once as part of CFNY's annual Talent Search contest. The contest airs fifty songs annually, typically broadcasting bands with zero exposure or releases.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1d5nyli/cia_an_update/</ref> | |||
==Debunked Leads== | ==Debunked Leads== | ||
=== | === Possible === | ||
* '''Bradford Reaves: CIA Blues''':<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18vmgjb/i_might_have_found_the_artist_who_made_the_cia/</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5fRCT1hWAw</ref> Unlikely, because Reaves' known music is in the folk rock style. | |||
=== | === Debunked === | ||
* '''4th Floor - Coming Home''': An early lead suggested that the song was by the Alternative Rock band 4th Floor, as they had a song on Discogs called "Coming Home" that was released in 1984.<ref>https://www.discogs.com/release/12448615-4th-Floor-4th-Floor</ref> At the time, the album was not uploaded; however, when the cassette was converted and uploaded, this lead was disproven.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/embed/SDTrvxl8XOQ</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q46N3IYg0Y&lc=UgzVpvg3_93l-HR2MFh4AaABAg</ref> | |||
* '''Zebra - CIA''':<ref>https://www.youtube.com/embed/WCHmjJ72rXY</ref> | |||
* '''The Reform - CIA''': In early 2024, speculation centered on the song "CIA" by The Reform, a rock/power pop song released in 1986 by a US band.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/189yuf7/hmmmmmmmmm/</ref> This was aided by the fact that the track length corresponded to the commonly uploaded length for the lost song CIA.<ref>https://www.discogs.com/release/13839352-The-Reform-CIA-Gimme-Your-Love</ref> This lead was debunked after the vinyl was digitized and the song was uploaded.<ref>https://archive.org/details/the-reform-cia</ref> | |||
* '''Conditioned Response''':<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1amcyrf/conditioned_response_is_not_responsible_for_cia/</ref> | |||
* '''The Switch - Coming Home''':<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1d4u0r8/cia_isnt_coming_home_by_the_switch/</ref> | |||
==References== | ==References== | ||
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* [https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com/interested-in-solving-some-musical-mysteries-try-to-identify-these-songs/ Alan Cross' Post about CIA] | * [https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com/interested-in-solving-some-musical-mysteries-try-to-identify-these-songs/ Alan Cross' Post about CIA] | ||
* [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11iWE8IWAEs5reZGiAtPqxHzukVy32QM-_cA0xbb5k2o/edit?gid=923414406#gid=923414406 CIA Leads Spreadsheet] | |||
[[Category:Unidentified]] | [[Category:Unidentified]] |
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CIA | |
Alternative name(s) | Coming Home / This Winter / Season at the CIA |
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Year | c. 1984 |
Original poster | datafreq |
Search started | 2020 |
CIA (also known as "Are You Coming Home", "This Winter" or "Season At The CIA") is an unknown post-punk song uploaded to YouTube in 2020 by DJFormaldehyde.
Origins and Search
On February 21st, 2020, user datafreq first uploaded the song to the New Wave Outpost forums, sourced from a cassette tape recorded in Canada in 1984.[1]
DJFormaldehyde posted CIA to YouTube and the New Wave Outpost forums on July 20, 2020.[2] The song was discovered on a tape made by a friend of DJFormaldehyde that included songs recorded from CFNY-FM Spirit of Radio,[3] a Canadian radio station known at the time for playing new wave, electronic, and alternative music.[4] The song was likely not recorded before July 1984 because the song "You Think You're A Man" by American performance artist Divine, which was released in July 1984, was the oldest song on the tape.[5]
The search for CIA gained traction in November 2021, with the song making its way to the lostwave subreddit and being reuploaded multiple times that year.[6] This was also the year that Alan Cross, who was a radio broadcaster at CFNY from 1986 onwards, uploaded the song to his website, broadening the search.[7]
It is assumed that CIA was aired once as part of CFNY's annual Talent Search contest. The contest airs fifty songs annually, typically broadcasting bands with zero exposure or releases.[8]
Debunked Leads
Possible
Debunked
- 4th Floor - Coming Home: An early lead suggested that the song was by the Alternative Rock band 4th Floor, as they had a song on Discogs called "Coming Home" that was released in 1984.[11] At the time, the album was not uploaded; however, when the cassette was converted and uploaded, this lead was disproven.[12][13]
- Zebra - CIA:[14]
- The Reform - CIA: In early 2024, speculation centered on the song "CIA" by The Reform, a rock/power pop song released in 1986 by a US band.[15] This was aided by the fact that the track length corresponded to the commonly uploaded length for the lost song CIA.[16] This lead was debunked after the vinyl was digitized and the song was uploaded.[17]
- Conditioned Response:[18]
- The Switch - Coming Home:[19]
References
- ↑ https://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=42844
- ↑ https://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=43033
- ↑ https://spiritofradio.ca/SongSearchAdd.asp
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q46N3IYg0Y
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q46N3IYg0Y&lc=Ugy8fLb1rOtbRp6ihmt4AaABAg.9eBIl25Qaqt9eE84dacDLB
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/r0tr1t/cia_unknown_postpunk_song_recorded_in_canada/
- ↑ https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com/interested-in-solving-some-musical-mysteries-try-to-identify-these-songs/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1d5nyli/cia_an_update/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/18vmgjb/i_might_have_found_the_artist_who_made_the_cia/
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5fRCT1hWAw
- ↑ https://www.discogs.com/release/12448615-4th-Floor-4th-Floor
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/embed/SDTrvxl8XOQ
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q46N3IYg0Y&lc=UgzVpvg3_93l-HR2MFh4AaABAg
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/embed/WCHmjJ72rXY
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/189yuf7/hmmmmmmmmm/
- ↑ https://www.discogs.com/release/13839352-The-Reform-CIA-Gimme-Your-Love
- ↑ https://archive.org/details/the-reform-cia
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1amcyrf/conditioned_response_is_not_responsible_for_cia/
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/1d4u0r8/cia_isnt_coming_home_by_the_switch/