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Thanks for your reply btw. Also, I see that you're working a lot on the wiki which is really nice so thank you for that! Would you maybe be interested in becoming a mod? It would be useful to streamline what we're going to work on. There are next to me already 3 other active admins: Nelgix, Gambuzino88 and Ba7ien
Thanks for your reply btw. Also, I see that you're working a lot on the wiki which is really nice so thank you for that! Would you maybe be interested in becoming a mod? It would be useful to streamline what we're going to work on. There are next to me already 3 other active admins: Nelgix, Gambuzino88 and Ba7ien
:I would like to become an admin (although initially I didn't want at all), however if I'll do something wrong, I'll request to step down myself :) --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]]) 03:37, 9 May 2024 (EDT)
You're free of course to not be a mod haha. But great that you want to! I propose that you join our discord server for communication, if you're not already a member of it. And don't be too harsh on yourself, making mistakes is normal. It is what you do with knowing that you made a mistake that makes the difference. No need to step down immediately :).You can join the discord server here: https://discord.gg/2DxRnDKG8w
:I just joined, but I want to say that I'm not using Discord very much. --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]]) 03:45, 9 May 2024 (EDT)
== Zoltan ==
It is best to place the flag image in the infobox.
:It's still need to test, so no. --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]]) 17:12, 11 May 2024 (EDT)
== Image ==
That scary image came from one of the song's uploads.
:I know, but I think there's not only that image associated. --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]]) 18:57, 11 May 2024 (EDT)
Is Bronx Stories notable though, I mean I can't find anything except the song itself
:At least, along with a lot of songs, mentioned in unidentified songs at Russian version of Lost Media wiki ([https://lostmedia.fandom.com/ru/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BD link]). --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]]) 08:36, 12 May 2024 (EDT)
== Bronx Stories ==
The lostwave has one YouTube upload from five years ago. I couldn’t even find a single Reddit post or comment about the song. It has no history or background. There would be nothing to read about in an article; It was not uploaded by q, which is the one and only notability guideline unless it’s a prominent lostwave or given an exception by the admins. This is why Bronx Stories should not be on this wiki’s lostwaves list. [[User:Nelgix|Nelgix]] ([[User talk:Nelgix|talk]])
:Reddit post is not a guideline for credibility. And even more, it contains on Reddit posts too, [https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/17jqols/lostwave_compilation_album_advice/ here's] some mention about it too. And by Reddit post logic, 50% of the list should be removed just because it doesn't have a Reddit post (f.e. The Squid Song). --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]])
Why The edit warning on Oceania??
:Dear [[User:Spyvs.Spy|Spyvs.Spy]], from Vocaroo to any Reddit post proving that Oceania is made for DCD live concert, meanwhile user Ziro the hiro‎ claims that "it's all fake" without any objective proof (links, posts, etc.). --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]]) 18:23, 17 May 2024 (EDT)
I can't find any evidence that DCD was confirmed to have made the song, should I reach out to Ziro as to why they think it's all fake though?
:See the page, see the [[Talk:Oceania|talk page]] itself and you'll find the evidences, for test we can email DCD for confirmation, but I don't think that it'll be pointful since the can even don't respond at all. I can provide even more arguments why it's most likely made by DCD like no other major leads, etc., but I don't think that it would pretty much necessary since just need to follow the logics and obvious facts we have! --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]]) 03:38, 18 May 2024 (EDT)
Read through the stuff, I think there is good circumstantial evidence they may have made it but I also think we shouldn't rule out the possibility of misatribution.
:It didn't, if it was then it would be a "fully solved", not "nearly solved". --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]]) 15:21, 18 May 2024 (EDT)
Fair enough then, page seems good as is anyway
== Trade For a Dollar ==
Trade For a Dollar is a hoax.
It was posted on WatZatSong, but users realized it was a hoax, for the simple fact that the voice is an AI-generated voice from suno.ai. After they discovered the truth, the OP deleted the post and pretended nothing happened.
:OK, but I didn't find any link of that... --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]]) 19:38, 18 May 2024 (EDT)
:As I said, the post was deleted, but if you ask in the Fond My Mind server, they will confirm that it is a hoax. --[[User:P2|P2]] ([[User talk:P2|talk]]) 19:41, 18 May 2024
== Hoax color ==
Why is blue more fitting for a hoax? I think orange-yellow is way more fitting as it is between green (solved) and red (unsolved). Blue could be for unconfirmed if editors insist, but I think that unconfirmed is not a useful label when referring to how solved or unsolved it is. [[User:Nelgix|Nelgix]] ([[User talk:Nelgix|talk]])
Edit: I meant unconfirmed. [[User:Nelgix|Nelgix]] ([[User talk:Nelgix|talk]])
:You just said why yellow fits more on partially solved songs, it's between green and red. Meanwhile Blue and Magenta aren't on that color spectrum. --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]]) 21:05, 18 May 2024 (EDT)
== Oceania ==
I’m simply trying to add partially solved and hoax categories onto the main page. I’m going to change it to something more popular once I understand how this table works. [[User:Nelgix|Nelgix]] ([[User talk:Nelgix|talk]])
:I don't think it is necessary at all. --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]]) 22:06, 18 May 2024 (EDT)
== Why are there so many useless pages describing colors? ==
I simply do not understand why we need pages describing the color of the box and text. To me, it appears completely unnecessary. The original system we started with was four templates to label articles with. I do not contest to new templates, like an AI Experimental template or an "article incomplete" box - but I don't see how what you created is useful in any way. [[User:Nelgix|Nelgix]] ([[User talk:Nelgix|talk]])
Nevermind, it seems like these articles act like variables for flags in infoboxes. My bad [[User:Nelgix|Nelgix]] ([[User talk:Nelgix|talk]])
:These articles are not only solved/unsolved, whiches are confirmed existence, but also near solved/unsolved, partially solved, unconfirmed (including hoax). What comes to infoboxes, there's status property, meaning color boxes aren't even required. --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]]) 15:43, 23 May 2024 (EDT)
== ==
Instead of reverting my version and replacing it with your own, maybe you should ask JuicyLegend which one he prefers... [[User:Nelgix|Nelgix]] ([[User talk:Nelgix|talk]])
: it is not even about a revert, it's why certainly why the new Main Page is wrong.
# the color scheme and the page overall looks very old and obsolete, literally Hello from 1990s/2000s. Meanwhile the default UI, Vector 2020 good/bad, but at least in some terms is modernized.
# I don't even want to talk about why hoaxes are yellow, however high contrasted colors are much more modern than low contrasted ones. What comes to JuicyLegend's version, it's neither my or your one, it's [https://lostwaves.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=2126 this]. So the list does not have any color.
# Main Page calmly becoming the same page as the List of Lostwaves, since most of "famous lostwaves" aren't even famous. So need to reduce the table entries. --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]]) 19:18, 24 May 2024 (EDT)
== Useless TMS instruments pages ==
Hi LB-LM, I think the pages on the instruments used in TMS are pretty useless and want to delete them. The pages on debunked leads are fine because that could be useful to the community but important things like the fact the synth used dates the song to no earlier than 1983 should be on the main page. I also believe the Vocals page isn't helpful as speculation and analysis of the TMS vocals have been done to death in this community.
Basically just asking for a second opinion before I delete them? Should they all be merged into one page instead?
:I think yes, sine there's a lot of useless info and the reformatting and shortening TMS page would be better. Having like 10 useless pages about TMS and very long unnecessary content on the page itself is kinda crazy. --[[User:LB-LM|LB-LM]] ([[User talk:LB-LM|talk]]) 07:06, 25 May 2024 (EDT)
Cool I'm going to delete the instruments pages because they really add nothing and I can't rewrite them to be useful
Hi LB-LM, is user Johnny Depp a troll or something, because it seems all they do is add possibly hoax lostwaves and upload random gifs?

Latest revision as of 05:59, 27 May 2024

Ahh I see, yeah I don't really mind anonymous editing but the issue was that spammers now also started to use just ip adresses so I was forced to let everybody login. For my knowledge, could you tell me how your account creation process went? Did you have to answer a question? Did you also have to confirm your email? These settings should be working but it's hard to test. So if you could please tell me if that works, I'll be really happy :P

I didn't added any E-Mail, but I can. --LB-LM (talk) 14:19, 8 May 2024 (EDT)

I enabled ParserFunctions 👍🏻

Thanks for your reply btw. Also, I see that you're working a lot on the wiki which is really nice so thank you for that! Would you maybe be interested in becoming a mod? It would be useful to streamline what we're going to work on. There are next to me already 3 other active admins: Nelgix, Gambuzino88 and Ba7ien

I would like to become an admin (although initially I didn't want at all), however if I'll do something wrong, I'll request to step down myself :) --LB-LM (talk) 03:37, 9 May 2024 (EDT)

You're free of course to not be a mod haha. But great that you want to! I propose that you join our discord server for communication, if you're not already a member of it. And don't be too harsh on yourself, making mistakes is normal. It is what you do with knowing that you made a mistake that makes the difference. No need to step down immediately :).You can join the discord server here: https://discord.gg/2DxRnDKG8w

I just joined, but I want to say that I'm not using Discord very much. --LB-LM (talk) 03:45, 9 May 2024 (EDT)

Zoltan[edit source]

It is best to place the flag image in the infobox.

It's still need to test, so no. --LB-LM (talk) 17:12, 11 May 2024 (EDT)

Image[edit source]

That scary image came from one of the song's uploads.

I know, but I think there's not only that image associated. --LB-LM (talk) 18:57, 11 May 2024 (EDT)

Is Bronx Stories notable though, I mean I can't find anything except the song itself

At least, along with a lot of songs, mentioned in unidentified songs at Russian version of Lost Media wiki (link). --LB-LM (talk) 08:36, 12 May 2024 (EDT)

Bronx Stories[edit source]

The lostwave has one YouTube upload from five years ago. I couldn’t even find a single Reddit post or comment about the song. It has no history or background. There would be nothing to read about in an article; It was not uploaded by q, which is the one and only notability guideline unless it’s a prominent lostwave or given an exception by the admins. This is why Bronx Stories should not be on this wiki’s lostwaves list. Nelgix (talk)

Reddit post is not a guideline for credibility. And even more, it contains on Reddit posts too, here's some mention about it too. And by Reddit post logic, 50% of the list should be removed just because it doesn't have a Reddit post (f.e. The Squid Song). --LB-LM (talk)

Why The edit warning on Oceania??

Dear Spyvs.Spy, from Vocaroo to any Reddit post proving that Oceania is made for DCD live concert, meanwhile user Ziro the hiro‎ claims that "it's all fake" without any objective proof (links, posts, etc.). --LB-LM (talk) 18:23, 17 May 2024 (EDT)

I can't find any evidence that DCD was confirmed to have made the song, should I reach out to Ziro as to why they think it's all fake though?

See the page, see the talk page itself and you'll find the evidences, for test we can email DCD for confirmation, but I don't think that it'll be pointful since the can even don't respond at all. I can provide even more arguments why it's most likely made by DCD like no other major leads, etc., but I don't think that it would pretty much necessary since just need to follow the logics and obvious facts we have! --LB-LM (talk) 03:38, 18 May 2024 (EDT)

Read through the stuff, I think there is good circumstantial evidence they may have made it but I also think we shouldn't rule out the possibility of misatribution.

It didn't, if it was then it would be a "fully solved", not "nearly solved". --LB-LM (talk) 15:21, 18 May 2024 (EDT)

Fair enough then, page seems good as is anyway

Trade For a Dollar[edit source]

Trade For a Dollar is a hoax.

It was posted on WatZatSong, but users realized it was a hoax, for the simple fact that the voice is an AI-generated voice from suno.ai. After they discovered the truth, the OP deleted the post and pretended nothing happened.

OK, but I didn't find any link of that... --LB-LM (talk) 19:38, 18 May 2024 (EDT)
As I said, the post was deleted, but if you ask in the Fond My Mind server, they will confirm that it is a hoax. --P2 (talk) 19:41, 18 May 2024

Hoax color[edit source]

Why is blue more fitting for a hoax? I think orange-yellow is way more fitting as it is between green (solved) and red (unsolved). Blue could be for unconfirmed if editors insist, but I think that unconfirmed is not a useful label when referring to how solved or unsolved it is. Nelgix (talk)

Edit: I meant unconfirmed. Nelgix (talk)

You just said why yellow fits more on partially solved songs, it's between green and red. Meanwhile Blue and Magenta aren't on that color spectrum. --LB-LM (talk) 21:05, 18 May 2024 (EDT)

Oceania[edit source]

I’m simply trying to add partially solved and hoax categories onto the main page. I’m going to change it to something more popular once I understand how this table works. Nelgix (talk)

I don't think it is necessary at all. --LB-LM (talk) 22:06, 18 May 2024 (EDT)

Why are there so many useless pages describing colors?[edit source]

I simply do not understand why we need pages describing the color of the box and text. To me, it appears completely unnecessary. The original system we started with was four templates to label articles with. I do not contest to new templates, like an AI Experimental template or an "article incomplete" box - but I don't see how what you created is useful in any way. Nelgix (talk)

Nevermind, it seems like these articles act like variables for flags in infoboxes. My bad Nelgix (talk)

These articles are not only solved/unsolved, whiches are confirmed existence, but also near solved/unsolved, partially solved, unconfirmed (including hoax). What comes to infoboxes, there's status property, meaning color boxes aren't even required. --LB-LM (talk) 15:43, 23 May 2024 (EDT)

[edit source]

Instead of reverting my version and replacing it with your own, maybe you should ask JuicyLegend which one he prefers... Nelgix (talk)

it is not even about a revert, it's why certainly why the new Main Page is wrong.
  1. the color scheme and the page overall looks very old and obsolete, literally Hello from 1990s/2000s. Meanwhile the default UI, Vector 2020 good/bad, but at least in some terms is modernized.
  2. I don't even want to talk about why hoaxes are yellow, however high contrasted colors are much more modern than low contrasted ones. What comes to JuicyLegend's version, it's neither my or your one, it's this. So the list does not have any color.
  3. Main Page calmly becoming the same page as the List of Lostwaves, since most of "famous lostwaves" aren't even famous. So need to reduce the table entries. --LB-LM (talk) 19:18, 24 May 2024 (EDT)

Useless TMS instruments pages[edit source]

Hi LB-LM, I think the pages on the instruments used in TMS are pretty useless and want to delete them. The pages on debunked leads are fine because that could be useful to the community but important things like the fact the synth used dates the song to no earlier than 1983 should be on the main page. I also believe the Vocals page isn't helpful as speculation and analysis of the TMS vocals have been done to death in this community. Basically just asking for a second opinion before I delete them? Should they all be merged into one page instead?

I think yes, sine there's a lot of useless info and the reformatting and shortening TMS page would be better. Having like 10 useless pages about TMS and very long unnecessary content on the page itself is kinda crazy. --LB-LM (talk) 07:06, 25 May 2024 (EDT)

Cool I'm going to delete the instruments pages because they really add nothing and I can't rewrite them to be useful

Hi LB-LM, is user Johnny Depp a troll or something, because it seems all they do is add possibly hoax lostwaves and upload random gifs?